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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion</H1>
+ <B>Thomas Backlund</B>
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+ <I>Mon Jun 13 15:08:51 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>David Sj&#246;lin skrev 13.6.2011 16:00:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Thomas Backlund&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wolfgang Bornath skrev 13.6.2011 15:20:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> About the cycles:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The 9-months seem to be a compromise - but I start to ask why we need
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> such a fixed statement (which it would be, once published). We need a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> schedule for each cycle, that's true. Without a schedule we would
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> never finish anything. But how about taking 9 months only as a &quot;nice
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to meet&quot; target, leaving us the option to set a roadmap after setting
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the specs of the next release - we could then go for a 8 or 10 months
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> roadmap, depending on the specs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is somewhat like what I had in my mind to write too, but you beat me to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It could allow us to adapt a little for upstream releases.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But should we then decide that the limit is +/- 1 month ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Obviously there will still be people complaining that &quot;you waited 10
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> months... if you had extended with ~2 more weeks... &quot;this&quot; or &quot;that&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> package would have been available too... and so on....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And something not to forget (this is more related to the specs):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If an estimated upstream release of kde/gnome/... seem to fit our
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> schedule it _must_ be in Cauldron before version freeze so we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> actually get some test/qa on it and not try to force it in by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;hey it's released ~x days before final mageia release so it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> must be added&quot; attitude that tends to pop up at every freeze.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This point and the one above (&quot;if you had extended...&quot;) seems to be
+</I>&gt;<i> arguments for a fixed time release cycle? With a fixed release cycle
+</I>&gt;<i> no one would question why we didn't wait for the release of a new
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome/kde/&lt;any package which someone wants&gt;, since waiting the extra
+</I>&gt;<i> weeks would go against the release cycle. I'm not sure if that is
+</I>&gt;<i> enough of an argument against having a looser release cycle but... But
+</I>&gt;<i> then again, I can see the point of having the possibility to be a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> flexible.
+</I>
+Well, it was intended to point out the problem with the &quot;flexible&quot;
+approach, and a possible &quot;fix&quot; by deciding some limits to the flexibility.
+
+--
+Thomas
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