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After more thinking +</I>><i> I do think that I really have the right idea and here is why... +</I>><i> Going the route of release cycles really does not make this distribution fit into anything. You going to try +</I>><i> and appeal to new people? Ubuntu has that covered and you will never steal that role. Hoping to become a geek type +</I>><i> distro? There are many that have that covered. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The best thing you can do as a team is try to come up with something that makes you stand apart from the crowd. +</I> +There is a limited set of options, and as you can see, none of your idea +was not already explored by someone else. + +><i> I never understood the release cycle model anyhow, whats the goal of that? +</I> +If everything move all days, you cannot : +- translate software ( as the string will change every day ) +- create documentation ( for the same reason ) +- communicate ( as everything ca be broken at any time ) +- ensure stability ( as each change can bring unstability ) + +And for user, some do not want to redo training every week for their +users, because libreoffice got updated, because ff 4 just arrived and +75% of extensions do not work, etc. + +In fact, the whole release model is basically what is used all over the +place, from lower level like kernel to higher level like kde. So you can +get lots of feedback on it. + +><i> To show off the latest tech in the open source world? Really? With Slackware and Fedora and +</I>><i> Suse and hosts of other flavors of GNU/Linux all doing the same thing? +</I> +So basically, you suggest that since everybody is already doing it, this +is useless. So the logical conclusion is we should drop the +distribution ? + +><i> What do we have that others don't? +</I> +We have the same thing, this is the strength of free software. We +basically all work together. + + +><i> We have something new that can be great +</I>><i> if planned right. There are 100's of distros releasing in cycles, let's get +</I>><i> out of that and truly showcase the best of open source through: +</I>><i> Unstable branch - absolute latest software here... +</I> +like cauldron ? or debian unstable, fedora rawhide, opensuse factory, +mandriva cooker ? + +><i> Rolling unstable - Still risky but not on the lines of unstable +</I> +like debian testing ( and CUT ) ? suse tumbleweed ? arch linux ? + + +><i> Rolling stable - everyday use and very stable +</I> +Very stable for a distribution mean "that do not change". That's +incompatible with the idea of rolling per definition. And in order to +have stable software, you have to freeze them and fix bugs. So to have +that on the whole distribution, you need to freeze the whole +distribution for a time, and then ask for test, fix bugs and then +release. Which is exactly what we currently do since years. + +><i> You could throw in "snapshots" and support those for X amount of time +</I>><i> as I have posted in the other place if you wanted (based on rolling unstable). +</I>><i> You could also have LTS releases based on Rolling stable.... It's up to you. +</I>><i> I don't believe we need yet another "burn new disk every X months for????" distribution. +</I> +So basically, you just reinvented the concept of release, and the way +Mandriva, Debian, Fedora work since years. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005474.html">[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005478.html">[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5475">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5475">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5475">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5475">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |