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How to backport?</H1> + <B>Thomas Backlund</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Missing%20packages%20in%20Mageia%201.%20How%20to%20backport%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DF206C2.3030700%40mageia.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?">tmb at mageia.org + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jun 10 13:57:54 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005336.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? (was: Finalizing update process) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005343.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. 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These packages are software which were supposed to be in +</I>><i> /core or /non-free or /tainted, they were just forgotten|came too +</I>><i> late|whatever for Mageia 1 release freeze. +</I>><i> +</I> +well, media/*/release tree is frozen, so _nothing_ new goes in there. + +So the path would then be */updates_testing -> */updates _if_ we decide +that's the way to go... + +Problem is that a "missing" package introcuced in updates also can +introduce regressions with wrong obsoletes/provides or %pre/%post scripts. + +So it has to go through the same qa as the rest of the stuff heading for +*/updates + +So question becomes, do we have enough qa/security people to make it work ? + +And if we introduce "filtering" on what goes in and what does not, +then who decides ? + +-- +Thomas + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005336.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. 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