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How to backport?</H1> + <B>Colin Guthrie</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Missing%20packages%20in%20Mageia%201.%20How%20to%20backport%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DF1DC43.1010205%40colin.guthr.ie%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?">mageia at colin.guthr.ie + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Jun 10 10:56:35 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005286.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005324.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5322">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5322">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5322">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5322">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 09/06/11 17:42 did gyre and gimble: +><i> On 9 June 2011 14:22, Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> Dexter Morgan <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>> schrieb am 09.06.2011 +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> +</I>>>><i> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> I think updates would be the right place. +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Please no 3rd repo :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> But i agree with you for updates for "new" packages ( no "new" +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> versions ;) ) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I would prefer using updates over backports as well. If we use backports we +</I>>><i> would get more problems then benefit (like people not having backports +</I>>><i> enabled or people having backports enabled and thus getting problems they +</I>>><i> can't handle e.g. with new kernels, graphic drivers and so on). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Perhaps we could upload them to updates/testing for a really short qa before +</I>>><i> moving them to updates/ ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Oliver +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If it's pushed to /updates then it should be imported to the stable +</I>><i> release SVN tree; note that at some point Cauldron could get a newer +</I>><i> version than the one in /updates, and maybe it's not backportable, new +</I>><i> deps, regressions... etc. But now if there's a bug in the version in +</I>><i> the stable */updates, and it needs a patch, what are you gonna base +</I>><i> the patch on if you submit directly from the Cauldron SVN checkout to +</I>><i> */updates, and the Cauldron package has already changed? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But if new package can go directly to updates.. that doesn't look +</I>><i> right to me, because at which point will "new" packages stop going to +</I>><i> a stable release */updates? if it goes on and on, then we're talking +</I>><i> about a semi-cauldron-like repo. +</I> +So just svn cp it to the /1/updates tree in svn and job's a good 'un. +(well svn cp is no longer just one step due to source separation, but +the principle is the same!). + + +><i> Also note that a new package in Cauldron gets tested for a while +</I>><i> (depending at which point it was imported during the release cycle), +</I>><i> but if gets pushed to /updates and not backports (which is "not +</I>><i> supported"), that testing period is short-circuited. +</I> +Yeah but then the examples I've got so far are: + + * trac + * supybot + * supybot-Meetbot + * passwd-gen + * dd_rescue + +In all these cases, these are packages I use. I will be testing them on +that version of the distro. And when I don't use them every day, (e.g. +passwd-gen, dd_rescue), they are pretty standard, stable and standalone +apps. + +IMO we can over-analyse the "risk" factor here massive to the detriment +of the overall offering. + +Col + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited [<A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>] +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor [<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>] + PulseAudio Hacker [<A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>] + Trac Hacker [<A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>] +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005286.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. 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