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+ <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B>
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+<PRE>On Sunday 18 December 2011 13:26, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
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+&gt;<i> What happens if a user wants to boot into run level 3? He will get a
+</I>&gt;<i> text prompt because neither x nor any DM has started yet - where does
+</I>&gt;<i> he land, on VT7?
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+And don't forget, some users Only use text logins, and don't even have any graphical desktops installed. Especially blind users do this more often that non-blind users.
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+Adriane Knopper, Klaus Knoppers vife, run a text only environment, and if I understand correctly, uses more than one tty for her daily work.
+A friend of mine who is blind also does this on a few machines. He started earlyer this year to experiment with running a graphical environment as his main login. But many blind users do not, and stick with the text based only environment, because they are familliar with it.
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+Many of our users heavily depend uppon having multible TTYs for a text based environment, and not a graphical one.
+Do not forget that, while trying to implement the change.
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+&gt;<i> About displaying a graphical login - when I press Ctrl-Alt-Fn I do
+</I>&gt;<i> this to go to a text console, not to yet another x screen and I expect
+</I>&gt;<i> a prompt, not yet another graphical login.
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+I do this from time to time too, to recover from a game crash (ufoai). Sometimes the game crashes on exit, and won't release the screen back to the desktop. The only means of recover is a text login (ctrl-alt-f1), issuing a killall ufoai, logout from text and go back to ctrl-alt-f7.
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+If this prosedure with the proposed change instead will launch another graphical login, and X somehow is blocked for whatever reason, then what?
+
+Whatever you do, Do Not completely remove the abillity to have a few simultanious text logins alongside a graphical login. The users who depend upon using a text login alongside the graphical environment are more than one should think.
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+Johnny A. Solbu
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