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+ <B>Florian Hubold</B>
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+ <I>Sat Dec 17 11:35:55 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Am 17.12.2011 11:26, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> 2011/12/17 Sander Lepik &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sander.lepik at eesti.ee</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 17.12.2011 12:10, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I really beg to think the whole matter over again, at least until it is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mature enough to be implemented in cauldron for practical test.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> People will get used to it rather fast.
+</I>&gt;<i> May be yes, may be no. I'm thinking about those computer adepts who
+</I>&gt;<i> have spent 10-15 years with the Ctrl-Alt-F1 combo, is it so easy to
+</I>&gt;<i> change a grown habit which is like the &quot;Red = Stop!&quot; paradigma? I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> thinking also about all those who spend time with different distros,
+</I>&gt;<i> having to change one of the most common procedures just for Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm thinking of rather new Linuxers who follow advice in documentation
+</I>&gt;<i> - ALL docs on the net talk about Ctrl-Alt-F1, all generic books like
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux in a Nutshell or others talk about Ctrl-Alt-F1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, my question is whether a second's flickering during startup really
+</I>&gt;<i> justifies such a strong change?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, maybe you haven't heard of the related problems yet:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Xserver_crashes">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Xserver_crashes</A>
+So what would be better: desktop session crashing when you press
+the enter key or ttys available on different keys?
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+How hard is it to just press a different key or keep switching
+until you hit a tty? That's what i do when i forget on which key
+the damn x session was to get back to it. :)
+
+Which is also differing between distros, some have x session on
+tty 1, some on 7 and Mandriva/Mageia since some time on 8,
+due to plymouth and the handover to the DM, IIRC.
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