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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Sat Dec 25 01:04:20 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 24 December 2010 13:02, Michael scherer&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 01:20:41AM +0100, Dexter Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Ahmad Samir&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 24 December 2010 00:13, Maarten Vanraes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 23 december 2010 22:23:56 schreef Ahmad Samir:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 23 December 2010 22:01, Samuel Verschelde&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I remember some years ago you could choose the exact version of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package for which you reported a bug, from a list. I agree that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> improving the UI side helpers could be useful.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As was said by dmorgan, listing each SRPM slowed down bugzilla a lot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the distro has a lot of SRPMS...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> an ajax search is better; it doesn't add much and only gets searched if you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> enter at least 2 chars, or something like that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if such an ajax is wanted, i can write that if i can use app-mageia-db or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> similar as a list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If the user doesn't know how to find the package info (rpm -q
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packagname), no auto-complete is going to help much, he'll just pick
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> one of them randomly (top of the list, or bottom of the list). It's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not much to ask for rpm -q output...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and this method is deprecated ( i mean the big list ) because this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> slow down too much the server.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The server, or the the browser ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( because server side, that's just a SQL query likely in cache, while
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> browser side, you have to render a enormous 15 000 items list,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with allocation of objects, etc, etc ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Exactly. So if this get implemented I'd like it to be optional, i.e. I
+</I>&gt;<i> can still turn it off in my bugzilla preferences.
+</I>
+Not only that, it should be off by default.
+End users tend to use the default configurations, and the last thing we
+need is a bugzilla so slow that end users will be dicouraged from
+reporting bugs.
+In my mind, it is triage and QA who would benefit the most from such a list.
+It seems if we were to have such a list, that it might be better to make
+it a separate (web) application, which could be referred to in a
+separtate tab/window, so it is charged only once for reviewing a number
+of bugs.
+But if triage/QA is not interested, it is better to avoid this big list.
+
+Another thought : maybe we should have separate rpm and srpm fields.
+Because end-users will relate more to ordinary rpm's, several of which
+could be generated by the same srpm.
+Do you think that would be useful ?
+
+my 2 cents :)
+
+Andr&#233;
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