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+ <B>yvan munoz</B>
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+<PRE>Hello Sacha,
+An old wiki page <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/fr/ProAudio">http://wiki.mandriva.com/fr/ProAudio</A> summary of somes tips.
+
+Maybe you could this wiki, but /en/, to start working on, because mageia
+wiki isnt perenial.
+
+Franck, question : have any Jost (and Jucetice) X86-64 version ?
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+
+Someone start this on Mandriva Linux Forum :
+<A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=133656">http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=133656</A>
+Maybe you could take and give on ?
+
+Mageia wiki doesnt seems perenial, so for now and a little time use forum
+for :
+_ transparency (no need to search about ml named dev!)
+_ listen users directly
+_ share ideas because same base
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+<PRE>On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:06:36PM +0100, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i>For instance:
+</I>&gt;<i> * instead of having a single maintainer for a given package, have
+</I>&gt;<i>several maintainers (with an admin maybe) over a given package (easy);
+</I>yes please
+
+&gt;<i> * should there be groups of packages defined? (this adds/replicates
+</I>&gt;<i>some logic that may already be somewhere else)
+</I>this can be useful, many desktop environments consist of more than one
+core package and development/packaging should be coordinated, so it
+makes sense.
+
+&gt;<i> * should there be explicity groups of maintainers? or implicit (as
+</I>&gt;<i>made of people maintaining the same package)?
+</I>i think explicit
+
+L.
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+<PRE>On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 04:47:07AM -0500, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote:
+&gt;<i> | &gt;ands, or buts, about it. If the Mageia community chooses to opeate as a
+</I>&gt;<i> | &gt;criminal organization, I will have nothing to do with it.
+</I>&gt;<i> | I don't agree on most of the above, and i believe the last sentence to be
+</I>&gt;<i> | offensive, but i will not retaliate lest it becomes a flame war.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I do not see how that statement is offensive. It is a simple statement of fact.
+</I>I am not really sure about US laws, but in some country, like mine there
+are two very distinct law body criminal law, and civil law.
+So here the term &quot;criminal organizations&quot; leads to think of things
+like mafia, large scale drug dealers, murderers etc. And i loathe to be
+included in the same group.
+&gt;<i>The variety of laws that exist is not the issue, the fact that they do exist
+</I>&gt;<i>is, and this is why I think PLF is a good place for &quot;questionable&quot; software.
+</I>It really is. As Romain pointed out the sum of every law in the world
+might result in an empty environment.
+(silly real world example)
+In some countries it is illegal for women to wear a bourka in public
+In some countries it is illegal for women _not_ to wear a bourka in
+public.
+Now how would you please both? besides my personal belief being women
+should be allowed to wear anything they chose and not be judged for that
+(and please if what i said is criminal, then call me that)
+
+&gt;<i>main Mageia distribution. I have no problem with such software being
+</I>&gt;<i>distributed where it is legal. I simply want to make it easy for end users and
+</I>&gt;<i>miror hosts to exclude this software where it is illegal. I will not enter
+</I>This is the object, but it cannot be achieved 100%.
+1) What about if a particulary restrictive country mandates that all
+communication software shall contain a mean for the government to
+eavesdrop such communication? shall we move ssl to plf?
+2) Not infringing on any patent would require enormous effort, just to
+list every possible patent, not to speak of analyzing every software to
+ensure it does not do anything covered by a patent.
+
+&gt;<i>into the argument that it is not illegal untill the patent holder comes after
+</I>&gt;<i>you. To my way of thinking, that feels very similar to saying that stealing is
+</I>&gt;<i>not a crime untill you get caught.
+</I>NO
+First, single patents are not laws
+Second, iirc your law requires patent holders to prove the validity of
+their patent in trial. this is the exact opposite of catching a thief.
+It is the patent holder that has to prove the property was his before
+claiming damage.
+
+L.
+
+P.S. I do not like the word 'tainted' for this kind of repository
+because it just encourages parallels with theft like Ernest is making
+here.
+
+L.
+
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+<PRE>Luca Berra a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:06:36PM +0100, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For instance:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * instead of having a single maintainer for a given package, have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> several maintainers (with an admin maybe) over a given package (easy);
+</I>&gt;<i> yes please
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * should there be groups of packages defined? (this adds/replicates
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some logic that may already be somewhere else)
+</I>&gt;<i> this can be useful, many desktop environments consist of more than one
+</I>&gt;<i> core package and development/packaging should be coordinated, so it
+</I>&gt;<i> makes sense.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * should there be explicity groups of maintainers? or implicit (as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> made of people maintaining the same package)?
+</I>&gt;<i> i think explicit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> L.
+</I>
+We could have a structure something like this :
+
+Primary key : name of package
+
+Other fields, 1:1 relation :
+- package rpm category (+ subcategory, if any)
+- repository
+- etc
+
+Other fields, 1:N relation :
+- Packager nickname + packager status (primary maintainer, trainee or
+whatever) + real name + email
+(The last 2 items could be in a separate table keyed by nickname.)
+
+- Package dependancies (names of other packages)
+- Package provides (names of other packages)
+- etc.
+
+Any of above fields could be chosen as secondary keys.
+
+This is just a quick suggestion, for the purposes of discussion.
+
+It doesn't seem that this sort of info would be useful in
+ mageia-app-db, which is primarily for end-users.
+
+another 2 cents :)
+
+Andr&#233;
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could have a structure something like this :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Primary key : name of package
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Other fields, 1:1 relation :
+</I>&gt;<i> - package rpm category (+ subcategory, if any)
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+What is the category ?
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+&gt;<i> - repository
+</I>&gt;<i> - etc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Other fields, 1:N relation :
+</I>&gt;<i> - Packager nickname + packager status (primary maintainer, trainee or
+</I>&gt;<i> whatever) + real name + email
+</I>&gt;<i> (The last 2 items could be in a separate table keyed by nickname.)
+</I>
+Why duplicate infos from ldap database ? And why would we need that in
+maintainers db ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Package dependancies (names of other packages)
+</I>
+Why would we need that in maintainers db ?
+
+&gt;<i> - Package provides (names of other packages)
+</I>
+Why would we need that in maintainers db ?
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 21 Dec 2010, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+Please don't specify things at the technical level to this point. Just
+express what is basically needed (sentences).
+
+To this point, all I can summarize is pretty straightforward:
+ - for a given source package, we want to know who maintains it (can
+be several persons), last activity (commit) on this package and
+consequent RPMs
+ - for a given person, we want to know what packages are maintained by
+ - we want to make and break such links between people and packages
+
+Anything _critical_ to add to this?
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+<PRE>Re Sascha, i post an script idea for your review.
+Only for idea on &quot;what we need to configure&quot; not for use itself, not for
+users
+Feel free to destroy or improve :)
+
+
+ps : what is this ???
+<A HREF="http://api.ning.com/files/wW2idnZhBeMI5mcdz*S108XoY2cud0alNupOzCi8K7GyZRWhfRV3LfVQp7VZsqosA1NUchdwvv3t*Gen1N4BjtiarucY*caG/GtFxFloorboard.jpg">http://api.ning.com/files/wW2idnZhBeMI5mcdz*S108XoY2cud0alNupOzCi8K7GyZRWhfRV3LfVQp7VZsqosA1NUchdwvv3t*Gen1N4BjtiarucY*caG/GtFxFloorboard.jpg</A>
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+ <B>Sascha Schneider</B>
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+<PRE>Hi muny, nice you joined.
+
+your script looks very good, will go through it in detail this eve, thanks
+for posting and joining.
+
+The GtFxFloorboard is an app to create effects with the Boss GT-series
+Effectboards.
+It has no sounds or effects itself, one will have to buy a BossGT
+Effektboard.
+Runs both on 32bit and 64bit Linux.
+<A HREF="http://fxfloorboard.sourceforge.net/">http://fxfloorboard.sourceforge.net/</A>
+this is the projectpage of gumtown who wrote this nice little gui.
+
+regards, saschas
+
+2010/12/21 yvan munoz &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mr.yvan.munoz at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Re Sascha, i post an script idea for your review.
+</I>&gt;<i> Only for idea on &quot;what we need to configure&quot; not for use itself, not for
+</I>&gt;<i> users
+</I>&gt;<i> Feel free to destroy or improve :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ps : what is this ???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://api.ning.com/files/wW2idnZhBeMI5mcdz*S108XoY2cud0alNupOzCi8K7GyZRWhfRV3LfVQp7VZsqosA1NUchdwvv3t*Gen1N4BjtiarucY*caG/GtFxFloorboard.jpg">http://api.ning.com/files/wW2idnZhBeMI5mcdz*S108XoY2cud0alNupOzCi8K7GyZRWhfRV3LfVQp7VZsqosA1NUchdwvv3t*Gen1N4BjtiarucY*caG/GtFxFloorboard.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> FLOSS ??
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>2010/12/21 Sascha Schneider &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ungleichklang at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+<A HREF="http://fxfloorboard.sourceforge.net/">http://fxfloorboard.sourceforge.net/</A>
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+&gt;<i> this is the projectpage of gumtown who wrote this nice little gui
+</I>
+
+\o/
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+<PRE>nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, 21 Dec 2010, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We could have a structure something like this :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Primary key : name of package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Other fields, 1:1 relation :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - package rpm category (+ subcategory, if any)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the category ?
+</I>
+I meant the rpm group tag
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - repository
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - etc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Other fields, 1:N relation :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Packager nickname + packager status (primary maintainer, trainee or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whatever) + real name + email
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (The last 2 items could be in a separate table keyed by nickname.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why duplicate infos from ldap database ? And why would we need that in
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainers db ?
+</I>
+Basically info in the packager wiki page.
+what ldap database ?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - Package dependancies (names of other packages)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why would we need that in maintainers db ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Package provides (names of other packages)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why would we need that in maintainers db ?
+</I>
+These are just ideas thrown out for discussion.
+All info related to packages.
+If all such info were included, it could facilitate the validation of
+packages - if we were to find that a good idea.
+
+Obviously going a little beyond a bare list of packages and maintainers.
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+<PRE>Just registered achannel on freenode
+
+#mageia-soundstudio
+
+feel free to join for some off-topic or detailed discussion
+
+@mageia-officials: if o.k., could someone make this channel official??
+I only have linked it on the soundstudio wiki.
+
+regards, saschas
+
+2010/12/21 yvan munoz &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mr.yvan.munoz at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010/12/21 Sascha Schneider &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ungleichklang at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fxfloorboard.sourceforge.net/">http://fxfloorboard.sourceforge.net/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is the projectpage of gumtown who wrote this nice little gui
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> \o/
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks !!
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, 21 Dec 2010, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We could have a structure something like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Primary key : name of package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Other fields, 1:1 relation :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - package rpm category (+ subcategory, if any)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What is the category ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I meant the rpm group tag
+</I>
+That's duplication with the content of the rpm, that is useless for our
+use cases.
+
+If you want a package database, there is sophie.zarb.org ( and its
+rewrite, sophie2 ).
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - repository
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - etc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Other fields, 1:N relation :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - Packager nickname + packager status (primary maintainer, trainee or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; whatever) + real name + email
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (The last 2 items could be in a separate table keyed by nickname.)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why duplicate infos from ldap database ? And why would we need that in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maintainers db ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Basically info in the packager wiki page.
+</I>&gt;<i> what ldap database ?
+</I>
+The ldap holding central authentication information ( ie, name, email,
+group, etc ), as mentioned on <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=173">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=173</A> ( among
+others, we also discussed this quite a bit on sysadmin ).
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>Op dinsdag 21 december 2010 10:58:43 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:40, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, 21 Dec 2010, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please don't specify things at the technical level to this point. Just
+</I>&gt;<i> express what is basically needed (sentences).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To this point, all I can summarize is pretty straightforward:
+</I>&gt;<i> - for a given source package, we want to know who maintains it (can
+</I>&gt;<i> be several persons), last activity (commit) on this package and
+</I>&gt;<i> consequent RPMs
+</I>&gt;<i> - for a given person, we want to know what packages are maintained by
+</I>&gt;<i> - we want to make and break such links between people and packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anything _critical_ to add to this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>
+- logging in
+
+this next might not be critical (i don't know, that is for you to decide):
+ - primary maintainership
+ - restrictions:
+ - if no maintainer is set: anyone can grab and will also be the primary
+maintainer
+ - if no primary maintainer is set; noone can grab anything; but other
+maintainers can grab primary maintainership
+ - if maintainers are set: then person might want to grab maintainership
+(not primary), but should be allowed by primary maintainer (optional)
+
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op dinsdag 21 december 2010 10:58:43 schreef Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- for a given source package, we want to know who maintains it (can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be several persons), last activity (commit) on this package and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> consequent RPMs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- for a given person, we want to know what packages are maintained by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- we want to make and break such links between people and packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anything _critical_ to add to this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - logging in
+</I>
+Well, yes, obviously :-p
+
+&gt;<i> this next might not be critical (i don't know, that is for you to decide):
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+Added for later improvements, if it gets reinforced with time. Thanks.
+
+Romain
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+
+muny added a script
+I added some thoughts on drakwizard vs kdialog vs zenity
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+<PRE>--- En date de&#160;: Mar 21.12.10, yvan munoz &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mr.yvan.munoz at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit&#160;:
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+&gt;<i> Franck, question : have any Jost (and Jucetice) X86-64 version ?
+</I>
+No I don't. Jost is vst-based and needs the famous proprietary header files, if this hasn't changed since a while.
+
+About the Qtractor question earlier:
+1) Qtractor needs vst headers only for supporting native linux vsts (yes such things exist, mda plugins and jost are examples). It has vestige by default if (as in distro case) proprietary headers are not compiled in. I do not think that proprietary stuff is that much important for musicians given that lv2/dssi lives a true revival at this moment. mda has been almost fully ported to lv2, but not yet officially released, calf is a very good set of lv2s.
+2) Qtractor (as other dssi or ladspa hosts) can use dssi-vst as wrapper for (that is: run) many vst plugins, but they won't really run in realtime as far as I have seen/heard ;), and for this it doesn't need vst headers at all.
+
+This gets very technical and off-topic now, and I promise to fill in my thoughts into the wiki page within the next week, sorry to be slow atm.
+
+Glad to see movement on this end.
+Cheers
+Frank
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+<I>Michael Scherer
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+<I>Luca Berra
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+<LI><A HREF="001837.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks
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+<I>Sascha Schneider
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+<LI><A HREF="001838.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia sound tasks
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+<I>Frank Kober
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