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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101211/001703.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101211/001703.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7ac9c21e1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101211/001703.html @@ -0,0 +1,116 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Mirror layout + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimY0UX60kAjzhemWehT3yKwvn9CQ%3DpEX0x2%2BeXn%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001698.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001704.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mirror%20layout&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimY0UX60kAjzhemWehT3yKwvn9CQ%3DpEX0x2%2BeXn%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Dec 11 11:08:50 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001698.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001704.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1703">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1703">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1703">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1703">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/12/11 andre999 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> Software (or anything else) only infringes on a patent if a court says so. +</I> +I am not talking about being sued for patent infringement, I may have +said it not clearly enough: I am talking about distributing (not +writing) software which is already protected by patents in a country +where software patents are acknowledged. + +>><i> This is not the question because we are not talking about costly court +</I>>><i> trials. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The damages claimable are in proportion to the loss the claimant can +</I>><i> demonstrate.  So even if they win (at least partially), will it be worth the +</I>><i> effort ? +</I> +Again, we are not talking about court trials about the writing of the +software and thus infringing some patent, I am talking about +distributing software which is already known to be patented software. +I am not talking about sease & desist letters with a bill for the +lawyer's work. Not about any punishment fees or whatever you have to +pay after you loose a court trial. + +>>><i> "cease and desist" letters are just warnings.  Any attached "bill" would +</I>>>><i> only have effect if validatated by a court. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Yes, I can refuse to pay, then it goes to court. And with an existing +</I>>><i> law which protects patented software, who do you think will win? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Again, until it decided by a court, it is only an unvalidated claim. +</I>><i> In the U.S., rarely does a patent holder win enough to justify their legal +</I>><i> costs.  If they win.  A lot of the costs are pretrial preparation, to +</I>><i> develop a case. +</I> +Tell that to the senders of thousands of such letters, each with a 100 +USD bill attached. +Again, we are NOT talking about big companies sueing other companies +for patent infringement. + +><i> These warnings are a tactic to scare the naive, to a large degree. +</I>><i> Lawyers and others do it everywhere.  Did you realise that these warnings +</I>><i> generally contain a statement to ensure that they can't be used in court +</I>><i> against the author ?  Because the usually excessive demands will work +</I>><i> against them in court ? +</I> +Is that so in the US? It is different in Germany. The demands have +been excessive but the highest court decided that these fees should +only cover the cost of the lawyer who sends this cease & desist +letter. It's around 100 Euros maximum IIRC. + + +Daniel Kreutzer wrote: +><i> If every developer on this world who writes open source software would care about such patents, than nobody would be able to program because you have to fear that a big company like Microsoft will have a patent on some part of code. But as you mentioned in previous posts, only such people with lots of money will have problems. +</I> +I did not write anything about developers. I wrote about maintainers +of mirrors who are distributing patented software in a country where +such patents are acknowledged. That's a totally different picture. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001698.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001704.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1703">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1703">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1703">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1703">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |