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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1>
+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+ <I>Thu Oct 7 17:15:45 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 13:27, Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le jeudi 7 octobre 2010 12:10:11, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You describe quite what Kiosk was designed for (and what most App
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Store are nowadays anyway).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; OK, buchan, how do we start ? Shall we put improvements proposals
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; (UI, website, ...) on the wiki, on <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate</A> ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, these are two different things. Above wiki page is for stating a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> perceived problem, and detailing what people view should be (or not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be) done.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Stating the need for, and specifying/scratching a web-based (or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> semi-web-based) UI for a socially augmented software library is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> another thing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, it's different, but to me part of the debate on the release cycle. As Buchan
+</I>&gt;<i> stated, better perception of backports by users could bring the benefits that
+</I>&gt;<i> some people see in a rolling release. Plus, I'm not only talking about web-based
+</I>&gt;<i> UI, but also rpmdrake improvements regarding backports.
+</I>
+Well, rpmdrake is a software library UI. Be it Web-based or not,
+that's another issue.
+
+I totally agree that the library contents and possibilities perception has to be
+improved. At least that we need to clarify/simplify/change how
+existing/new software
+and updates/upgrades are presented to the user.
+
+Maybe shifting from a strictly system-related point of view (current
+rpmdrake UI)
+to a more application/task/user-related one. Or maybe it's a deeper issue than
+just presentation/UI (like really handling differently how software
+gets integrated
+and packaged on/above/within the operating system).
+
+But I just don't know. And I believe we're several in this case.
+
+It is just not clear at all that this discussion about &quot;rolling&quot; distro,
+backports, etc. is directly linked to that.
+
+So the above linked wiki page is about stating and nailing down the problem
+several people here seem to agree there is:
+ - first, make sure everyone speak about the same thing; so everyone should
+ state her own point of view, detailed;
+ - second, work this refined problem in depth, so that we see what is really
+ the problem, and not only the symptoms;
+ - third, once the problem is clearly stated, the solution(s) may be more
+ obvious to see/discute/define.
+
+Note that at this current stage of discussion, it may as well be that there are
+_several_ issues mixed as one. So we could as well split the problem into
+relevant parts.
+
+&gt;<i> However, if you think we shouldn't put an entry saying &quot;no rolling release,
+</I>&gt;<i> but improve current backports scheme, see proposal below&quot;, I won't do it.
+</I>
+You can too. But then let's make sure this is related to the discussion (it may,
+I am not sure) and then, let's define the bigger picture that links all this
+together (would need a separate section in the wiki page then, or yet another
+page to state the big view of the issue).
+
+
+Romain
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