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So I think that's not +</I>><i> > very expensive. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I still do have a pandaboard available. It just take that someone in +</I>><i> Paris fetch it and to decide where we place it ( and a case around it +</I>><i> would be nicer, and there is nothing to run on it yet ). +</I> +Yes, we can start with this pandaboard, and bring it next time we go to +Marseille. Maybe we can also add an OpenRD if we can buy one, to allow +building packages faster with two build nodes. According to rtp, an +advantage of OpenRD is that it's armv5t which is better to detect +alignement errors. + +><i> +</I>><i> > However, this machine is a lot slower than the x86_64 build servers we +</I>><i> > have, so building big packages like LibreOffice will take much more +</I>><i> > time. And if we don't want to slow down all the buildsystem, maybe we +</I>><i> > should make the successufl ARM build not mandatory to upload packages on +</I>><i> > x86_64 and i586. So this require some changes in the BS. But I think +</I>><i> > it's something that can be done. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That for sure something we can do, but then we should also give us +</I>><i> objectives to fullfill ( like "we should strive to have a synced +</I>><i> release" ) and also objectives in term of hardware to one day make them +</I>><i> in sync. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Moreover if this is not mandatory, don't you fear that the arch will be +</I>><i> too much out of sync ( as this was the case for ppc/sparc in the +</I>><i> past ) ? +</I>><i> I would also be concerned about the way we manage freeze if the arch is +</I>><i> late, and the complexity that will occurs. +</I> +Yes, that can be a problem if one arch become too much out of sync. +Maybe we can generate a list of out of sync packages to help see what +needs to be fixed. So ARM will not be guaranted to be always sync with +i586 and x86_64, that will depend how fast people can fix ARM bugs. + +><i> Also what about stuff like : +</I>><i> - remote shell access ( if there is a arch dependent bugs ) +</I>><i> - various tests ( automated rebuild, youri, etc ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For remote shell access, we could offer VMs for that, but I can hear rtp +</I>><i> screaming as I type this email :). +</I>><i> In fact, the same could be said about rebuilded, but I do not know how +</I>><i> good is the emulation of arm using qemu. +</I> +Or later add new ARM machines where people can have shell access. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003253.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3290">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3290">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3290">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3290">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |