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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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And every time you need to install +</I>><i> Mageia on that hardware, you'll need to apply the kludge again and +</I>><i> again. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The goal should be to have a distro that 'just works'. Solving the +</I>><i> problem by copying files from outside the repositories may point out a +</I>><i> deficiency in Mageia repos, but not if the solution can be found +</I>><i> within. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And this brings up a point of having the tainted repos as "opt-in". +</I>><i> This thinking comes from a philosophy of some kind of "pure" Linux +</I>><i> which eschews non-free licensed software.However, some hardware can +</I>><i> only be useful with non-free software and it's unrealistic to pretend +</I>><i> that such hardware does not exist nor that those using such hardware +</I>><i> will have the knowledge and skill to enable the tainted repo. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I realize that the purists among us have decide to disable the tainted +</I>><i> repos by default, but those same people are the ones most likely to +</I>><i> have selected hardware that does not depend on non-free software and +</I>><i> they are also skilled Linux users. The opt-in approach serves to +</I>><i> advance their political agenda at the expense of having a distro that +</I>><i> 'just works' for the average to non-technical user. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It may be more sense to enable the tainted repos by default and +</I>><i> provide an opt-out screen during the installation: "Repositories +</I>><i> offering access to software that have non-free licenses are enabled by +</I>><i> default. To keep your Mageia system unencumbered by software with +</I>><i> restrictive or non-free licenses, please un-check the box. Certain +</I>><i> hardware may not function without such non-free software and if you +</I>><i> are unsure, leave the box checked." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That gives users a choice, makes Mageia a 'just works' distro for the +</I>><i> average user and reduces the number of requests for assistance that +</I>><i> can be solved by using non-free software. +</I>><i> +</I>I had the tainted repos installed since initial installation. The +firmware I needed was not there. At least not according to the software +manager. + +Gary +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004517.html">[Mageia-discuss] Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4514">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4514">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4514">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4514">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |