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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101018/002465.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101018/002465.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1e3335033 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101018/002465.html @@ -0,0 +1,118 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3C1287425965.3843.79.camel%40access.dscvcp.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002471.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002466.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement</H1> + <B>George J. Walsh</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Positive%20Reinforcement&In-Reply-To=%3C1287425965.3843.79.camel%40access.dscvcp.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement">gjwalsh at dscvcp.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 18 20:19:25 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002471.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002466.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2465">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2465">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2465">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2465">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I have been diligently following the ongoing discussions about future +directions, marketing approaches and technical support, most definitely +the insightful exchanges with Frank Griffin and Graham Lauder. + +As briefly as possible, I'd like to suggest that some of us are perhaps +losing sight of what we really have with the existing Mandriva distro as +a jumping off point. + +I spent a good portion of September installing and re-installing several +distros from scratch to see for myself where they stood. (I was running +a bit scared, I'll admit, so it was due diligence to ensure I had a plan +B were Mandriva to disappear.) For my development work in counselling +psychology, I use a server to provide our own sendmail, apache, php and +postgresql services. But I ALSO use the GNOME desktop not just for the +usual mail traffic and web browsing but as the front-end for all the web +development tools we also utilize. + +This makes a lot of sense in my case, true, but also for small business +generally. It is the simple, if not ideal, combination of the desktop +with a server as such. Mandriva never had a problem with that. Seems to +me, with the exception of commercial game-playing stuff, I come close to +having 'all things for all people'. You can't do this easily or directly +with Open Suse, nor with Fedora. I suspect that is because both are +subtly laid out to ensnare you in a money upgrade. Mandriva, by way of +contrast, selects and updates a kernel-server for my needs. No fuss, no +muss. At the time, neither of those distros had a FUNCTIONING equivalent +to our cooker. Fedora is all business and has heaps of documentation +support but I found it easier to work with the command line. Open Suse, +on the other hand, has endless detailed menus which, I suppose, is an +attempt to look like Windows. Impressed initially by the scope of what +was available, I quickly became lost in the visual congestion. I'm the +kind of guy who finds it far, far easier to write some script for rsync +backups rather than deal with the tedious and not overly transparent +form-filling required by luckybackup, by way of example. I'm not a +script fiend, I just like a natural choice between gui and command line. +Mandriva has always inherently provided me with that. + +I spent considerable time trying to be objective about Ubuntu, but I +admit to having been heavily biased by negative reviews of Ubuntu as a +server. I also installed BSD and, if I had to stop at this point and +Mageia were not to become reality, then that is where I would go. Kind +of felt like the old UNIX days, but there was something else I learned +from a rather non-productive month. + +When we are successful forking Mageia as a community, we will have +removed the manipulative, hidden agendas of SUSE, Red Hat and Ubuntu. We +will have the best opportunity to fulfill the original dream behind what +is now Linux. As is so often the case in human history, the tools we +already have in our toolbox are just waiting to be made use of. The +present world has become so cynical that it cannot conceive of something +'free' having any value. That is one of the unintended results of +aggressive marketing. Yet in the end real value, as opposed to monetary +value will stand the test of time. Linux, is still 'a kid'. Lets show +this 'kid' the mature patient nurturing it needs to reach even some of +its astonishing potential. At all costs, let us all endeavour NOT to +repeat recent history still again. + +My best to all ... + +George +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002471.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia logo proposals and selection +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002466.html">[Mageia-discuss] Positive Reinforcement +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2465">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2465">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2465">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2465">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |