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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jul 27 18:05:20 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 27/07/12 15:21 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 27.07.2012 17:16, Anssi Hannula skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 27.07.2012 17:12, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 27/07/12 15:02 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 27.07.2012 16:55, Anssi Hannula skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 26.07.2012 20:17, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 5228
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tv
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012-07-26 19:17:41 +0200 (Thu, 26 Jul 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> revert some duplicated manbo stuff (all identical to default but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> %_libexecdir that changed to %_libdir when mga forked mdv)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, I'm not sure I understand. AFAIK we have always (i.e. on Mageia and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on Mandriva before Mageia) had %_libexecdir as %_libdir.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yep,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> see:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/packages/updates/2010.1/rpm-manbo-setup/current/SOURCES/manbo.macros?view=markup">http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/packages/updates/2010.1/rpm-manbo-setup/current/SOURCES/manbo.macros?view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The change means that even 64-bit libexec binaries will be put into
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/lib, is that intentional?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So this change should be reverted imho...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> While I don't have a massively strong opinion on this topic, the only
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reason we have lib vs lib64 is to avoid name conflicts. If we consider
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libexec binaries as the kind of binary you'd only have installed once
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (i.e. not something you need for each arch, then the libexec dir is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> effectively &quot;a private bin dir&quot; and thus can be the same on both 32 and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 64 bit IMO. So I guess I'd ultimately prefer /usr/lib/ to always be used
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> regardless of arch (i.e. one less difference between 32 and 64 bit builds).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +1 on one dir regardless of arch, however the question is if that should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be /usr/lib or /usr/libexec. On fedora it is the latter, and we seem to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have some stuff (plymouth ans some others) there also.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well some packages override this e.g.:
+<A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=systemd.git;a=blob;f=systemd.spec;hb=HEAD#l164">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=systemd.git;a=blob;f=systemd.spec;hb=HEAD#l164</A>
+
+Maybe worth asking Kay about that in #systemd to see if there is an
+argument against using /usr/libexec more generally?
+
+&gt;<i> In that case, I'd say /usr/libexec to keep /usr/lib as arch clean as
+</I>&gt;<i> possible...
+</I>
+Assuming we're not missing something, yes, I agree.
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+&gt;<i> And I guess we will catch any name conflicts when we start full rebuild...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> speaking of that btw... anything missing for that, or should we plan &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> start the full rebuild... ?
+</I>
+I think all the things I wanted to do before the rebuild are in place so
+I'm certainly fine with it.
+
+Col
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+Colin Guthrie
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