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+ <B>Christophe Fergeau</B>
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+
+During a discussion on IRC, I realized that glib 1.2 had been imported
+in the svn repository <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glib/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glib/</A>
+This library has been obsolete for years now, and I'm not sure at all
+there is any &quot;interesting&quot; app still needing it. I'd really recommend
+trying hard to keep glib 1.2 away from the repository to avoid having
+really old and obsolete packages that noone will use anyway. This
+would probably save some maintainance time to some people.
+
+Cheers,
+
+
+Christophe
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+ <B>Fabrice Facorat</B>
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+<PRE>2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; homepage: <A HREF="http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/">http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; browsing page:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/">http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; sorry but who is supposed to use mageia-app-db ? power users ? dev ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; casual/normal users ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel said that the application must be useful both for newbies and power
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; users
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ok for power users, but for normal users the Ui is too cluttered
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [remember that this is only a first mockup made by me (the developer is
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel), my goal is to provide to him all the most interesting infos and ideas
+</I>&gt;<i> to develop the app as best as possible.]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. left pane : Release Alpha vs Cauldron ? for a normal user, this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> means pretty nothing. If the user is looking for an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> application/package, then don't talk about release or repositories.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> well, if you have mandriva installed, do you think you don't know what release
+</I>&gt;<i> is? alpha release vs. cauldron could be &quot;Mageia 2011&quot; and &quot;Mageia 2012&quot;
+</I>
+whereas eventually I may know about release ( Mageia 2011 ), I may not
+know about updates/backports/testing/....
+What's the point fo browsing by release ? It's an application
+database, so you should browse by applications.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> What about using instead rpm categories, and then display theses kind
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of information in the package infos
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> do you mean showing only &quot;amarok&quot; field and when you get into it you'll
+</I>&gt;<i> download different versions depending on the release installed? it can be an
+</I>&gt;<i> interesting idea.
+</I>
+first I see the main categories : Office, Sound &amp; Video, Tools, ...
+Then the sub-category and then the application :
+Sound &amp; Video -&gt; Sound -&gt; Amarok
+The left pane should only show categories, the application list will
+be displayed in the center pane.
+
+See tthe way you navigate in this :
+<A HREF="http://download.cnet.com/windows/mp3-and-audio-software/?tag=rb_content;contentNav">http://download.cnet.com/windows/mp3-and-audio-software/?tag=rb_content;contentNav</A>
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 2. right pane : Alpha vs Beta ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> also here, i mean something like this: &quot;Mageia 2011&quot; and &quot;Mageia 2012&quot;
+</I>
+this won't scale when you will have more and more release, except if
+you plan to show only 2 releases, and so to support a mandriva release
+only during 2 releases cycles.
+
+--
+Close the World, Open the Net
+<A HREF="http://www.linux-wizard.net">http://www.linux-wizard.net</A>
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+<PRE>On 7 February 2011 01:11, Christophe Fergeau &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cfergeau at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> During a discussion on IRC, I realized that glib 1.2 had been imported
+</I>&gt;<i> in the svn repository <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glib/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glib/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This library has been obsolete for years now, and I'm not sure at all
+</I>&gt;<i> there is any &quot;interesting&quot; app still needing it. I'd really recommend
+</I>&gt;<i> trying hard to keep glib 1.2 away from the repository to avoid having
+</I>&gt;<i> really old and obsolete packages that noone will use anyway. This
+</I>&gt;<i> would probably save some maintainance time to some people.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Christophe
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We should probably remove it now, it's not built/available yet in the
+Mageia repos.
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>On Sunday, February 06, 2011 04:26:24 pm Ahmad Samir wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 7 February 2011 01:11, Christophe Fergeau &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cfergeau at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; During a discussion on IRC, I realized that glib 1.2 had been imported
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in the svn repository <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glib/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glib/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This library has been obsolete for years now, and I'm not sure at all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there is any &quot;interesting&quot; app still needing it. I'd really recommend
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; trying hard to keep glib 1.2 away from the repository to avoid having
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; really old and obsolete packages that noone will use anyway. This
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would probably save some maintainance time to some people.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Christophe
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should probably remove it now, it's not built/available yet in the
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia repos.
+</I>OK for me to remove. mdbtools needs it but ...
+--
+Thomas
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+ <B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B>
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+<PRE>Le mardi 4 janvier 2011 04:03:34, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia team will attend FOSDEM 2011 (<A HREF="http://fosdem.org/2011/">http://fosdem.org/2011/</A>) in
+</I>&gt;<i> Bruxelles, february, 5/6 2011.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As project is rather new, we will not have boot this year but we may
+</I>&gt;<i> attend distribution Miniconf. In same time we will have meeting about
+</I>&gt;<i> various subjects (topics list still not finalized, feel free to
+</I>&gt;<i> propose also) and of course diner.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you are interested in it, please register on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:fosdem2011">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=events:fosdem2011</A> so that we can
+</I>&gt;<i> book in time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>
+Merci Anne,
+
+I wonder, where do the long distance people could get a video / presentation
+of conference
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+&gt;<i> During a discussion on IRC, I realized that glib 1.2 had been imported
+</I>&gt;<i> in the svn <A HREF="repositoryhttp://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glib/">repositoryhttp://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/glib/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This library has been obsolete for years now, and I'm not sure at all
+</I>&gt;<i> there is any &quot;interesting&quot; app still needing it. I'd really recommend
+</I>&gt;<i> trying hard to keep glib 1.2 away from the repository to avoid having
+</I>&gt;<i> really old and obsolete packages that noone will use anyway. This
+</I>&gt;<i> would probably save some maintainance time to some people.
+</I>I'm enterely agree with you, glib 1.2 is obsoletes and useless.
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+&gt;<i> if there are lots of candidates (and looking at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#list_of_registered_people,">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging#list_of_registered_people,</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> there should be quite a lot), i'll priorize on the following criteria in
+</I>&gt;<i> order:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - people with packaging experience (this way, we can increase the
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers pool faster)
+</I>
+Hi,
+I see on the [dev], you have already found someone, but maybe I can join too?
+
+I've some experience in creating rpms, I've made some for my mandriva (ie gcc,
+kernel, firefox, and some less known soft ;) )
+
+The only problem is that currently i don't have much time, I'd like to start
+in a few/several days/weeks. Is it ok?
+
+regards
+
+ps I'm from poland so I guess it's only +1h ;)
+
+--
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+gmail.com kicer86
+<A HREF="http://kicer.sileman.net.pl">http://kicer.sileman.net.pl</A>
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+&gt;<i> OK for me to remove. mdbtools needs it but ...
+</I>
+Another question to ask is if we really need mdbtools :) But before
+sending this email, I checked mdbtools tarball, and as far as I could
+see, the configure checks for glib/gtk 2.0, so maybe it's just the
+build requirements in the .spec that needs to be adjusted. Could you
+test building mdbtools using glib2?
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wonder, where do the long distance people could get a video / presentation
+</I>&gt;<i> of conference
+</I>
+I found <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RntO4dH0tU">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RntO4dH0tU</A> , hopefully someone
+will have a link to the same video in a free format :)
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+<PRE>On 6 February 2011 23:17, Fabrice Facorat &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; homepage: <A HREF="http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/">http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; browsing page:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/">http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; sorry but who is supposed to use mageia-app-db ? power users ? dev ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; casual/normal users ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel said that the application must be useful both for newbies and power
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; users
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ok for power users, but for normal users the Ui is too cluttered
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [remember that this is only a first mockup made by me (the developer is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel), my goal is to provide to him all the most interesting infos and ideas
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to develop the app as best as possible.]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. left pane : Release Alpha vs Cauldron ? for a normal user, this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> means pretty nothing. If the user is looking for an
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> application/package, then don't talk about release or repositories.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> well, if you have mandriva installed, do you think you don't know what release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is? alpha release vs. cauldron could be &quot;Mageia 2011&quot; and &quot;Mageia 2012&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> whereas eventually I may know about release ( Mageia 2011 ), I may not
+</I>&gt;<i> know about updates/backports/testing/....
+</I>&gt;<i> What's the point fo browsing by release ? It's an application
+</I>&gt;<i> database, so you should browse by applications.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What about using instead rpm categories, and then display theses kind
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of information in the package infos
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do you mean showing only &quot;amarok&quot; field and when you get into it you'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> download different versions depending on the release installed? it can be an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> interesting idea.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> first I see the main categories : Office, Sound &amp; Video, Tools, ...
+</I>&gt;<i> Then the sub-category and then the application :
+</I>&gt;<i> Sound &amp; Video -&gt; Sound -&gt; Amarok
+</I>&gt;<i> The left pane should only show categories, the application list will
+</I>&gt;<i> be displayed in the center pane.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See tthe way you navigate in this :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.cnet.com/windows/mp3-and-audio-software/?tag=rb_content;contentNav">http://download.cnet.com/windows/mp3-and-audio-software/?tag=rb_content;contentNav</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. right pane : Alpha vs Beta ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also here, i mean something like this: &quot;Mageia 2011&quot; and &quot;Mageia 2012&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this won't scale when you will have more and more release, except if
+</I>&gt;<i> you plan to show only 2 releases, and so to support a mandriva release
+</I>&gt;<i> only during 2 releases cycles.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Close the World, Open the Net
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linux-wizard.net">http://www.linux-wizard.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I like the ratings and the &quot;news&quot; about new packages on the right,
+however the centre pane is a little cluttered, maybe if the info there
+was put into topics with turn down boxes it would make it clearer and
+cleaner as the information is a little distracting atm.
+
+Donald.
+</PRE>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On 6 February 2011 23:17, Fabrice Facorat &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; homepage: <A HREF="http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/">http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; browsing page:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/">http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; sorry but who is supposed to use mageia-app-db ? power users ? dev ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; casual/normal users ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Samuel said that the application must be useful both for newbies and
+</I>power
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; users
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ok for power users, but for normal users the Ui is too cluttered
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; [remember that this is only a first mockup made by me (the developer is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Samuel), my goal is to provide to him all the most interesting infos and
+</I>ideas
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to develop the app as best as possible.]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 1. left pane : Release Alpha vs Cauldron ? for a normal user, this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; means pretty nothing. If the user is looking for an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; application/package, then don't talk about release or repositories.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; well, if you have mandriva installed, do you think you don't know what
+</I>release
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; is? alpha release vs. cauldron could be &quot;Mageia 2011&quot; and &quot;Mageia 2012&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; whereas eventually I may know about release ( Mageia 2011 ), I may not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; know about updates/backports/testing/....
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What's the point fo browsing by release ? It's an application
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; database, so you should browse by applications.
+</I>
+this mockup depends for some aspects on the current implementation:
+
+<A HREF="http://88.191.121.20/madb/master/index.php/?source=0&amp;distrelease=8&amp;application=1&amp;arch=1">http://88.191.121.20/madb/master/index.php/?source=0&amp;distrelease=8&amp;application=1&amp;arch=1</A>
+
+i agree about browsing only by applications, but for power users is important
+also the updates/backports/testing/ option.
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; What about using instead rpm categories, and then display theses kind
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; of information in the package infos
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; do you mean showing only &quot;amarok&quot; field and when you get into it you'll
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; download different versions depending on the release installed? it can be
+</I>an
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; interesting idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; first I see the main categories : Office, Sound &amp; Video, Tools, ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Then the sub-category and then the application :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sound &amp; Video -&gt; Sound -&gt; Amarok
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The left pane should only show categories, the application list will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be displayed in the center pane.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; See tthe way you navigate in this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://download.cnet.com/windows/mp3-and-audio-">http://download.cnet.com/windows/mp3-and-audio-</A>
+</I>software/?tag=rb_content;contentNav
+
+this reflect the current mockup of the navigation page, did you see it? is it
+moreover similar to your preferences?
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 2. right pane : Alpha vs Beta ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; also here, i mean something like this: &quot;Mageia 2011&quot; and &quot;Mageia 2012&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this won't scale when you will have more and more release, except if
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you plan to show only 2 releases, and so to support a mandriva release
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; only during 2 releases cycles.
+</I>
+about this i should hear the developer, depending on how is implemented it
+could be useful or cluttering.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Close the World, Open the Net
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.linux-wizard.net">http://www.linux-wizard.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like the ratings and the &quot;news&quot; about new packages on the right,
+</I>&gt;<i> however the centre pane is a little cluttered, maybe if the info there
+</I>&gt;<i> was put into topics with turn down boxes it would make it clearer and
+</I>&gt;<i> cleaner as the information is a little distracting atm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Donald.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>you're right, it is a little cluttered, the home-page mockup is only a first
+version to improve. to better satisfy user needs and preferences, we could use
+the user preferences and settings, as:
+- show only a release
+- show only specific packages (+ notifications?)
+- etc...
+
+other ideas/critics?
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
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+<PRE>On 3 February 2011 17:06, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> So as discussed tonight ( but if you couldn't be present at the meeting,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do not hesitate to express yourself now ), we proposed to have some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> order in the import of rpm ( ie avoid the resulting anarchy due to lack
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of process for bootstrap ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In order to start by something tangible and easy to manage, let's take a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> concrete case. The sysadmin team discussed to use mageia on the servers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( once the stable release is out ie, not now ) for obvious reasons of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dogfooding. But for this, we will have to import the needed rpms. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> extracted from puppet logs the lists of rpm, and I have a list of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> major component needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The rule would be to take 1 and only 1 rpm ( or family ) at the time, to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make sure it work fine ( ie, compile for the moment, and also install ),
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to make sure the package is cleaned ( ie, patchs sent upstream,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> commented, etc ), and to make sure that everybody can find something to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> do.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And that of course requires to do the same for missing BuildRequires,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and Requires ( but since lots of rpm have been imported without being
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fully cleaned, and since there is now a fast web interface for svn,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people have no excuse to not check ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I will place the list on the wiki tomorrow, and people wishing to work
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on importing a rpm should add their name/login/whatever after the rpm,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and then to work on it. If there is already someone working on a rpm,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just take another one, or try to work with this person.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So it seems that my list of 20 rpms is now much lower than needed, as
+</I>&gt;<i> most servers applications needed have been imported.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The only thing left are :
+</I>
+What would really help us is the list of actually successfully build
+package rather than
+ the list of submitted packages that we previously have on pkgsubmit.mga.org
+It has been replaced by the list of missing BR for currently submited packages
+(<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt</A>) but having the list
+of succesfully rebuild packages would help too.
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+<PRE>2011/2/7 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;<i> On 6 February 2011 23:17, Fabrice Facorat &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; whereas eventually I may know about release ( Mageia 2011 ), I may not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; know about updates/backports/testing/....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; What's the point fo browsing by release ? It's an application
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; database, so you should browse by applications.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this mockup depends for some aspects on the current implementation:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://88.191.121.20/madb/master/index.php/?source=0&amp;distrelease=8&amp;application=1&amp;arch=1">http://88.191.121.20/madb/master/index.php/?source=0&amp;distrelease=8&amp;application=1&amp;arch=1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i agree about browsing only by applications, but for power users is important
+</I>&gt;<i> also the updates/backports/testing/ option.
+</I>
+It's depend on the workflow.
+Do you want to :
+- quickly be able to see all backports packages for a release
+- or see the differents versions for a package
+
+IMHO for the former, you'd better add a query/report page where the
+user could select some filters and then have an answer. Some of the
+filters category :
+release = &lt;distribution_version1&gt;, &lt;distribution_version_2&gt;
+category = &lt;release&gt;, &lt;backport&gt;, &lt;testing&gt;
+sort by = &lt;category&gt;, &lt;release date&gt;
+
+You should keep the UI simple, and then add a query page to allow
+complex queries for power users.
+
+--
+Close the World, Open the Net
+<A HREF="http://www.linux-wizard.net">http://www.linux-wizard.net</A>
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+&gt;<i> On 3 February 2011 17:06, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So as discussed tonight ( but if you couldn't be present at the meeting,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> do not hesitate to express yourself now ), we proposed to have some
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> order in the import of rpm ( ie avoid the resulting anarchy due to lack
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of process for bootstrap ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In order to start by something tangible and easy to manage, let's take a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> concrete case. The sysadmin team discussed to use mageia on the servers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ( once the stable release is out ie, not now ) for obvious reasons of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dogfooding. But for this, we will have to import the needed rpms. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> extracted from puppet logs the lists of rpm, and I have a list of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> major component needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The rule would be to take 1 and only 1 rpm ( or family ) at the time, to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make sure it work fine ( ie, compile for the moment, and also install ),
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to make sure the package is cleaned ( ie, patchs sent upstream,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> commented, etc ), and to make sure that everybody can find something to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> do.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And that of course requires to do the same for missing BuildRequires,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and Requires ( but since lots of rpm have been imported without being
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> fully cleaned, and since there is now a fast web interface for svn,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> people have no excuse to not check ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I will place the list on the wiki tomorrow, and people wishing to work
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on importing a rpm should add their name/login/whatever after the rpm,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and then to work on it. If there is already someone working on a rpm,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just take another one, or try to work with this person.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So it seems that my list of 20 rpms is now much lower than needed, as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> most servers applications needed have been imported.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The only thing left are :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What would really help us is the list of actually successfully build
+</I>&gt;<i> package rather than
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;the list of submitted packages that we previously have on pkgsubmit.mga.org
+</I>&gt;<i> It has been replaced by the list of missing BR for currently submited packages
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt</A>) but having the list
+</I>&gt;<i> of succesfully rebuild packages would help too.
+</I>
+OK, I removed the list of built one when removing the (empty) list of
+missing one to get rid of the ugly temporary code
+I can add it back until having something better... Or maybe add the
+generation of those lists to the script run every 15 minutes that
+lists missing deps.
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+&gt;<i> please remove mdbtools. It's very old and doesn't build.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+You can remove it from svn yourself:
+$ svn rm -m &quot;- package is too old blahblah&quot;
+svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/mdbtools">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/mdbtools</A>
+svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/binrepos/cauldron/mdbtools">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/binrepos/cauldron/mdbtools</A>
+
+
+Note that now since we split the binaries in binrepos, you need to svn
+rm both locations ^).
+
+(You need to ask someone form the sysadm team to remove the package(s)
+from the master mirror only if the package has been built as not all
+packagers have direct access to delete packages from the master
+mirror, but since mdbtools didn't build, just removing it from svn
+should suffice).
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+
+in svn we now have the new rpm 4.8.1 ( the last stable release of rpm.org ).
+We will push it after the Alpha1 iso ( not a good idea to potentially
+break something before an iso :) )
+
+What is left to do :
+
+-&gt; Port perl-RPM4 to new rpm 4.8.1
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+
+Have a good day.
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+<PRE>Le lundi 07 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 00:17 +0100, Fabrice Facorat a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; also here, i mean something like this: &quot;Mageia 2011&quot; and &quot;Mageia 2012&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this won't scale when you will have more and more release, except if
+</I>&gt;<i> you plan to show only 2 releases, and so to support a mandriva release
+</I>&gt;<i> only during 2 releases cycles.
+</I>
+Technically, that not mandriva, but mageia :)
+
+And since one of the goal of the tool is to manage people who ask for
+backports, as said on <A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/1/wiki">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/1/wiki</A> ,
+it make sense to limit this to supported releases.
+
+&gt;<i>From a ressource point of view, I do not think it would be wise to keep
+</I>everything ( ie, to still keep stuff server side to change all
+releases ). And limiting the releases supported on every tools we use
+would also remove clutter on various part of the interface ( ie bugzilla
+among others, or forums ).
+
+So yes, just show only X releases by default make perfect sense, IMHO
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+<PRE>Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 16:35, Marcello Anni&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> we will be able to create a LiveCD version of Mageia for this alpha
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this is really important as interested people that don't want problems may
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> want to try it and then install it only when a stable release is ready for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> everyday use.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As pointed out several times (and will be underlined in all
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> announcements) this Alpha 1 is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - NOT a stable release
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - NOT for the average user, it's a developper release
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - NOT ready for everyday use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in fact, a livecd version allow to keep the &quot;funny&quot; side of linux without
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> having any risk. so?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Again, that's not the focus of this alpha release. We don't want
+</I>&gt;<i> people to try it around just to see what Mageia has in reserve,
+</I>&gt;<i> because they will be disappointed in this regard: take this alpha as
+</I>&gt;<i> an alpha-developer/packager-technical-raw-preview. It will be ugly. It
+</I>&gt;<i> will scare Santa Claus. It will make the rain vaporize. It may even
+</I>&gt;<i> break your neighbour's TV set.
+</I>
+Right -- Mageia is powerful stuff :)
+
+Point well made. Our alpha release will be far from ready for the
+average user. But an essential step in the process.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>On 26 January 2011 20:20, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 26 janvier 2011 &#224; 18:13 +0200, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 26 January 2011 17:46, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nope, X, KDE4 and GNOME are all already available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, but we didn't really test yet, and that's what the first iso will
+</I>&gt;<i> be for, test and see if it work. It may totally eat your hard dis and
+</I>&gt;<i> open a door to hell ( or worst, to Microsoft ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That doesn't negate the fact that the rpms build...
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> More DE's will be in soon; note that the big hurdle of importing the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> most basic packages is over, so importing packages now is much easier
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, but personally, i would prefer to see that people focus more on
+</I>&gt;<i> cleaning ( and sending patches upstream ) than importing
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+And who said that when we import a package we didn't clean it too?
+
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+
+--
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+<PRE>Le lundi 07 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 21:30 +0200, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 26 January 2011 20:20, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le mercredi 26 janvier 2011 &#224; 18:13 +0200, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+</I>
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; More DE's will be in soon; note that the big hurdle of importing the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; most basic packages is over, so importing packages now is much easier
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yeah, but personally, i would prefer to see that people focus more on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cleaning ( and sending patches upstream ) than importing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And who said that when we import a package we didn't clean it too?
+</I>
+Well, most of the time, patches are not commented nor send upstream :/
+
+
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+<PRE>On 7 February 2011 22:24, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 07 f&#233;vrier 2011 &#224; 21:30 +0200, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 26 January 2011 20:20, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Le mercredi 26 janvier 2011 &#224; 18:13 +0200, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; More DE's will be in soon; note that the big hurdle of importing the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; most basic packages is over, so importing packages now is much easier
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Yeah, but personally, i would prefer to see that people focus more on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; cleaning ( and sending patches upstream ) than importing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And who said that when we import a package we didn't clean it too?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, most of the time, patches are not commented nor send upstream :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Personally, as I said before about upstreaming patches, I don't think
+I have enough experience to judge if a patch should go upstream or
+not, so that part I can't do.
+
+What do you mean by &quot;commented&quot;?
+
+--
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+<PRE>On Fri, 04 Feb 2011, Florent Monnier wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 04 f&#233;vrier 2011 17:49:39, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 04 februari 2011 17:16:09 schreef Florent Monnier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I was (or I still am?) maintainer for these packages:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://maint.mandriva.com/listpkgs.php?owner=105">http://maint.mandriva.com/listpkgs.php?owner=105</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I have not read the 5000 mails of the lists yet,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; but I have seen the occurrence of &quot;buildsystem&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; so my question is should I join the team now to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; provide the equivalent packages, or should I wait
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; (maybe wait that the first installable mageia is out) ?
+</I>
+Yes, you can join now, no need to wait for first release !
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the keypoint is that everyone who wants to be a packager (including
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mandriva packagers) needs some training (mentoring), so, the best way is
+</I>
+There is no mentoring needed for previous mandriva packagers.
+
+&gt;<i> My Mandriva mentor was Guillomovitch&#8206;, but now as you said I've just seen the
+</I>&gt;<i> thread of J&#233;r&#244;me looking for a padawan, so J&#233;r&#244;me (or someone else) do you
+</I>&gt;<i> want to mentor me to become a Mageia packager / maintainer ?
+</I>
+You can get a packager account directly and start importing and
+submiting packages. I see you created an account with login &quot;blue_prawn&quot;
+on <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org,">https://identity.mageia.org,</A> so you can send me your ssh key and I
+will upgrade your account to packager status.
+
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+<PRE>2011/2/7 Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hello all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in svn we now have the new rpm 4.8.1 ( the last stable release of rpm.org ).
+</I>&gt;<i> We will push it after the Alpha1 iso ( not a good idea to potentially
+</I>&gt;<i> break something before an iso :) )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is left to do :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -&gt; Port perl-RPM4 to new rpm 4.8.1
+</I>You do realise that perl-RPM4 isn't the only thing you need to port, right..?
+
+But whatever..
+
+--
+Regards,
+Per &#216;yvind
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 6 f&#233;vrier 2011 13:00:00, vous avez &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> hi Samuel,
+</I>&gt;<i> these are my last 2 mockups about mageia-app-db project. i've added mageia-
+</I>&gt;<i> discuss and mageia-dev in the CC list so anyone can share his opinion about
+</I>&gt;<i> these mockups, giving us comments and ideas that can improve the tool.
+</I>&gt;<i> please, tell me what do you think about it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> homepage: <A HREF="http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/">http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> browsing page: <A HREF="http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/">http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+I'll answer directly to the other mails and then if I have more to add I'll
+add something in another reply.
+
+&gt;<i> cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcello
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS= i've noticed 0.1 release is ready, is it time for a blog post?
+</I>
+Yes, we tagged the 0.1 release, but we haven't planned to communicate before
+version 0.2 because there are many many things that people are going to tell
+and that we just already know (like : usability is not good, filtering summary
+takes too much space, and so on). Moreover, counting from version 0.2 mageia-
+app-db will have regular synchronization from sophie (ie it will become
+&quot;alive&quot; :)), which is not the case at the moment.
+
+Regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 6 f&#233;vrier 2011 22:14:40, Marcello Anni a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; hi Samuel,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; these are my last 2 mockups about mageia-app-db project. i've added
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; discuss and mageia-dev in the CC list so anyone can share his opinion
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> about
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; these mockups, giving us comments and ideas that can improve the tool.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; tell me what do you think about it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; homepage: <A HREF="http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/">http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; browsing page:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/">http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sorry but who is supposed to use mageia-app-db ? power users ? dev ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; casual/normal users ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel said that the application must be useful both for newbies and power
+</I>&gt;<i> users
+</I>
+Yes, to be more precise : when you come it shows &quot;end-user&quot; stuff, but if you
+activate some things (advanced filters, technical information, etc.) you should
+get something useful for advanced users, developers, etc. As one of the goals
+is to empower users into contributers (whatever the form of contribution), I
+see no need to dumb down the application too much (which doesn't mean it
+doesn't have to be user-friendly !).
+
+Regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 6 f&#233;vrier 2011 23:23:43, Fabrice Facorat a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marcello.anni at alice.it</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; homepage: <A HREF="http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/">http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; browsing page:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/">http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; sorry but who is supposed to use mageia-app-db ? power users ? dev ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; casual/normal users ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel said that the application must be useful both for newbies and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; power users
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ok for power users, but for normal users the Ui is too cluttered
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. left pane : Release Alpha vs Cauldron ? for a normal user, this
+</I>&gt;<i> means pretty nothing. If the user is looking for an
+</I>&gt;<i> application/package, then don't talk about release or repositories.
+</I>&gt;<i> What about using instead rpm categories, and then display theses kind
+</I>&gt;<i> of information in the package infos
+</I>
+At the moment, I don't plan to put the different distribution releases in the
+left menu. In mageia-app-db, you browse one release at a time, which is
+already the case in version 0.1 : <A HREF="http://88.191.121.20/madb/master/">http://88.191.121.20/madb/master/</A>
+(in fact, you can browse packages from several releases at a time, but that's
+not the standard use case).
+Here is how we will determine what release to show by default to you :
+- if you are logged in and defined a preferred release (version 1, &quot;latest
+stable&quot; version, cauldron...), then it's used
+- else, we will try to detect what release your system has, from your user
+agent
+- and in last resort (not logged in, cleaned user agent or browsing from
+another system), the default is the latest stable release (this is the current
+behaviour).
+
+And you can switch from one version to the other by the filter in the banner
+(it will likely look like simple dropdown, or something else simple to use).
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 6 f&#233;vrier 2011 23:50:51, Marcello Anni a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> samuel told me he wants to use a search field in the home-page, this is up
+</I>&gt;<i> to him (i would prefer only the smaller search field).
+</I>
+Yes, that was inspired by <A HREF="http://screenshots.debian.net/">http://screenshots.debian.net/</A>
+
+However in the current implementation we removed the search field in the home
+page because there's already a huge search field at the top :)
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 27 janvier 2011 15:50:43, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 27/01/11 00:17 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - mageia-app-db (Stormi: PHP) would like some help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been a lot busier with work and other real life commitments of late
+</I>&gt;<i> , so have not had nearly as much time for Mageia stuff as I'd hoped.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But in principle, I can help out here with the PHP side of things. IIRC
+</I>&gt;<i> Stormi is using Zend Framework which I'm very familiar with.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi, thanks for the proposal (even if the framework is not Zend Framework but
+Symfony :)) !
+However, you proved too useful on real distribution development stuff on
+Mandriva to be wasted on a side project, in my opinion... Unless you really
+want to be part of the mageia-app-db project, in which case you are more than
+welcome !
+
+I remember you said you could help for security review. I don't know how to
+proceed, but if you have tips on that side (or want to try to find existing
+security flaws), it could help.
+
+Regards
+
+Samuel
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 27 janvier 2011 23:39:07, Christian Paier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &gt; I've been a lot busier with work and other real life commitments of late
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; , so have not had nearly as much time for Mageia stuff as I'd hoped.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> same for me - but I could assist you If there are a small tasks to do
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes, we always find tasks for volunteer slaves :P
+
+The easier to get in touch is come on the #madb irc channel on
+irc.freenode.net, so that we can talk about the project and what you could do
+to help !
+
+Thanks for your proposal.
+
+Regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 6 f&#233;vrier 2011 23:16:58, Michael scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 01:07:09PM -0800, Talus Portugal wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Greetings,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have deep knowledge of php if I can be of help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please let me know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For php, we do have mageia-app-db (
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/1/wiki">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/1/wiki</A> ), and that the only
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia project in php so far.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Indeed (lucky me).
+
+I invite you to join us on the #madb channel on irc.freenode.net so that we
+can talk about the project and see what tasks you would like to do :)
+
+Regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+<LI><A HREF="002467.html">[Mageia-dev] glib 1.2
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+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
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+<LI><A HREF="002468.html">[Mageia-dev] looking for a padawan
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+<I>Micha&#322; Walenciak
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+<I>Christophe Fergeau
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+
+<LI><A HREF="002470.html">[Mageia-dev] FOSDEM 2011
+</A><A NAME="2470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christophe Fergeau
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002471.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002472.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002473.html">[Mageia-dev] Packager meetings for tonight
+</A><A NAME="2473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002474.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fabrice Facorat
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002475.html">[Mageia-dev] Packager meetings for tonight
+</A><A NAME="2475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002476.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove mdbtools
+</A><A NAME="2476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002477.html">[Mageia-dev] [ ANNOUNCE] Cauldron Update to rpm 4.8.1 ( After Alpha 1 ISOS )
+</A><A NAME="2477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002478.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002479.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002480.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002481.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002482.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002483.html">[Mageia-dev] packaging for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="2483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002484.html">[Mageia-dev] [ ANNOUNCE] Cauldron Update to rpm 4.8.1 ( After Alpha 1 ISOS )
+</A><A NAME="2484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002485.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002486.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002487.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002488.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002489.html">[Mageia-dev] Dev Team Call To Action...
+</A><A NAME="2489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002490.html">[Mageia-dev] Dev Team Call To Action...
+</A><A NAME="2490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002491.html">[Mageia-dev] Dev Team Call To Action...
+</A><A NAME="2491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Feb 7 23:54:45 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Feb 7 23:54:51 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>7 February 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Feb 7 00:11:34 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Feb 7 23:54:45 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 31<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002479.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002480.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002481.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002482.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002477.html">[Mageia-dev] [ ANNOUNCE] Cauldron Update to rpm 4.8.1 ( After Alpha 1 ISOS )
+</A><A NAME="2477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002484.html">[Mageia-dev] [ ANNOUNCE] Cauldron Update to rpm 4.8.1 ( After Alpha 1 ISOS )
+</A><A NAME="2484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002489.html">[Mageia-dev] Dev Team Call To Action...
+</A><A NAME="2489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002490.html">[Mageia-dev] Dev Team Call To Action...
+</A><A NAME="2490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002491.html">[Mageia-dev] Dev Team Call To Action...
+</A><A NAME="2491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002465.html">[Mageia-dev] FOSDEM 2011
+</A><A NAME="2465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002470.html">[Mageia-dev] FOSDEM 2011
+</A><A NAME="2470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christophe Fergeau
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002461.html">[Mageia-dev] glib 1.2
+</A><A NAME="2461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christophe Fergeau
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002463.html">[Mageia-dev] glib 1.2
+</A><A NAME="2463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002464.html">[Mageia-dev] glib 1.2
+</A><A NAME="2464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002467.html">[Mageia-dev] glib 1.2
+</A><A NAME="2467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002469.html">[Mageia-dev] glib 1.2
+</A><A NAME="2469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christophe Fergeau
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002468.html">[Mageia-dev] looking for a padawan
+</A><A NAME="2468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Micha&#322; Walenciak
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002462.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fabrice Facorat
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002471.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002472.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002474.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fabrice Facorat
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002478.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002485.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002486.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002487.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002488.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002473.html">[Mageia-dev] Packager meetings for tonight
+</A><A NAME="2473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002475.html">[Mageia-dev] Packager meetings for tonight
+</A><A NAME="2475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002483.html">[Mageia-dev] packaging for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="2483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002466.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove mdbtools
+</A><A NAME="2466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002476.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove mdbtools
+</A><A NAME="2476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Feb 7 23:54:45 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Feb 7 23:54:51 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>7 February 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Feb 7 00:11:34 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Feb 7 23:54:45 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 31<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01297033894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002461.html">[Mageia-dev] glib 1.2
+</A><A NAME="2461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christophe Fergeau
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01297033894-01297034784- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002463.html">[Mageia-dev] glib 1.2
+</A><A NAME="2463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01297033894-01297034784-01297048792- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002464.html">[Mageia-dev] glib 1.2
+</A><A NAME="2464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01297033894-01297034784-01297048792-01297067179- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002469.html">[Mageia-dev] glib 1.2
+</A><A NAME="2469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christophe Fergeau
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01297033894-01297060028- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002467.html">[Mageia-dev] glib 1.2
+</A><A NAME="2467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Cazzaniga Sandro
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01297034233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002462.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fabrice Facorat
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01297034233-01297074249- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002471.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01297034233-01297074249-01297079123- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002472.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marcello Anni
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01297034233-01297074249-01297079123-01297082548- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002474.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Fabrice Facorat
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01297034233-01297098148- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002478.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01297050233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002465.html">[Mageia-dev] FOSDEM 2011
+</A><A NAME="2465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01297050233-01297067261- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002470.html">[Mageia-dev] FOSDEM 2011
+</A><A NAME="2470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christophe Fergeau
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01297054274- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002466.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove mdbtools
+</A><A NAME="2466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01297054274-01297095025- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002476.html">[Mageia-dev] please remove mdbtools
+</A><A NAME="2476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01297065795- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002468.html">[Mageia-dev] looking for a padawan
+</A><A NAME="2468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Micha&#322; Walenciak
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297080532- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002473.html">[Mageia-dev] Packager meetings for tonight
+</A><A NAME="2473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01297080532-01297083218- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002475.html">[Mageia-dev] Packager meetings for tonight
+</A><A NAME="2475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01297097763- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002477.html">[Mageia-dev] [ ANNOUNCE] Cauldron Update to rpm 4.8.1 ( After Alpha 1 ISOS )
+</A><A NAME="2477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01297097763-01297115421- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002484.html">[Mageia-dev] [ ANNOUNCE] Cauldron Update to rpm 4.8.1 ( After Alpha 1 ISOS )
+</A><A NAME="2484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01297100279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002479.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297107021- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002480.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01297107021-01297110274- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002481.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01297107021-01297110274-01297113109- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002482.html">[Mageia-dev] 26/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01297113680- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002483.html">[Mageia-dev] packaging for Mageia
+</A><A NAME="2483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297115747- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002485.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297116688- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002486.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297117337- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002487.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297117464- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002488.html">[Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="2488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297118835- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002489.html">[Mageia-dev] Dev Team Call To Action...
+</A><A NAME="2489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297119060- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002490.html">[Mageia-dev] Dev Team Call To Action...
+</A><A NAME="2490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01297119285- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002491.html">[Mageia-dev] Dev Team Call To Action...
+</A><A NAME="2491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Feb 7 23:54:45 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Feb 7 23:54:51 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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