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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000643.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000643.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bcff46814 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000643.html @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Some news about project + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20project&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dpx8mZ4vVXycoXy%3D2hPKCsfGoBk-22QPpQTb_Z%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000656.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Some news about project</H1> + <B>Anne nicolas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20project&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dpx8mZ4vVXycoXy%3D2hPKCsfGoBk-22QPpQTb_Z%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Some news about project">ennael1 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 01:29:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#643">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#643">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#643">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#643">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi there + +Still a busy week in working on Mageia first setup. Here is a quick summary: +blog.mageia.org/?p=54 + +Cheers! + +------- +Anne +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#643">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#643">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#643">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#643">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000644.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000644.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d34584ddd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000644.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinCGg%2B6D59NebOWXKWetdwdFbBwVtTwCmg3-mBb%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000676.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000650.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinCGg%2B6D59NebOWXKWetdwdFbBwVtTwCmg3-mBb%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 01:57:12 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#644">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#644">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#644">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#644">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 1 October 2010 19:20, Thierry Vignaud <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On 1 October 2010 18:54, <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sorteal at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I must agree. If FF is going to be the default then addons should be done +</I>>><i> by the user.  Although I still think a browser better suited to KDE would +</I>>><i> be a better choice. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's alreay what we do for years. +</I>><i> We install a matching browser according to the choosen desktop. +</I>><i> When the user choose KDE we default to konqueror else we default to firefox +</I>><i> through meta-task => task-kde4 => konqueror +</I>><i> +</I> +AFAICS Firefox is the default browser in KDE4: +$ grep Browser /var/lib/mandriva/kde4-profiles/common/share/config/kdeglobals +BrowserApplication=firefox + + +Konqueror is installed by default anyway. However, unfortunately +Konqueror isn't the most compatible browser out there... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#644">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#644">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#644">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#644">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000645.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000645.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7d47ab187 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000645.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Identifying%20Target%20Markets&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA67794.3080400%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000652.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000649.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Identifying%20Target%20Markets&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA67794.3080400%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 02:06:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#645">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#645">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#645">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#645">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Graham Lauder wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> Oh for Jiminys' sake, is there something in the water that causes you to be so +</I>><i> literal. I SAID HYPOTHETICAL! What I was trying to do was demonstrate in a +</I>><i> lighthearted manner that NOONE, me included, can experience on their own, a +</I>><i> global market. That's why some of us pay huge amounts of money to the market +</I>><i> research companies for this sort of info. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is now wasting my time +</I>><i> +</I> +OK, I'll bite the bullet and be the one to tell you. Your style in +posting these comments has reeked of an assumed position of superiority, +so it should not be surprising to you that people have taken umbrage, +and will not pass up any opportunity to point out inconsistencies in +your posts. + +And you *are* inconsistent, as has been pointed out repeatedly. You +tend to gloss over the inconsistencies with a message of "trust me, I +know what I'm talking about, I'm an expert, and I should be in charge" +while you disparage the opinions and life experiences of the other +posters. You don't seem to grasp that a community distro is fueled by +people who contribute for reasons meaningful to them, not you. + +In most companies not run by techies, marketing is given the ultimate +power. Marketing determines what the customers want, Development +decides how to produce it, and Sales sells it. As I've tried to point +out to you repeatedly, this is not a company. This is a +community-fueled distro doing things for reasons that motivate *them*, +not you. There is no CEO or Board of Directors to slam down a mandate +that marketing is in charge, and there are no shareholders to back that +up because we have to show a profit. + +Unless all of the technical contributors on whom the success of this +distro rely for some reason decide to sign on to your vision of a distro +configured for and targeted for your chosen audience, it simply isn't +going to happen. They do the work because they benefit by it (or their +vision of the distro benefits by it). + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#645">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#645">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#645">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#645">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000646.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000646.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..33c3f49a4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000646.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20101002000947.GU21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000659.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000660.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20101002000947.GU21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 02:09:47 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#646">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#646">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#646">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#646">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 01 Oct 2010, Olivier Méjean wrote: + +><i> Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 21:38:14, nicolas vigier a écrit : +</I>><i> > On Fri, 01 Oct 2010, Olivier Méjean wrote: +</I>><i> > > What about a rolling distribution ? As an user (just plain user) i do not +</I>><i> > > think that installing a distribution is a goal, just a mean to use my +</I>><i> > > computer, so i wish i could not spend time installing a distribution +</I>><i> > > every 6 months or every year. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > And you prefer to spend time to update your distribution every day instead +</I>><i> > of every year ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I update my distribution if not every day every week each time there is an +</I>><i> update, but moreover i need to update every 6 months if i want to have latest +</I>><i> versions. So right now the point is updating every day and upgrading to new +</I>><i> version every 6 months (and truely, i am still using 2010). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The question of time is a wrong question, i spend time upgrading every day +</I>><i> (well just clicking the applet, typing password and let's go !) +</I> +Security updates are different, they usually only do the minimal changes +required to fix bugs, so updating is not supposed to cause troubles +with other unexpected changes. + +><i> +</I>><i> So i would not like the same for Mageia. It is a new project, we shall not +</I>><i> need to re-take everything from Mandriva, but rather innovate and there i +</I>><i> guess there is a way to innovate. Maybe a core part of the distribution could +</I>><i> be in fixed release, the rest in rolling release. +</I> +This rolling release already exists, it's called the backport +repository. But don't expect the same stability as the fixed release, +you can't have both. + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#646">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#646">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#646">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#646">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000647.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000647.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4be3b600e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000647.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C5293259.200931285978297317.JavaMail.www%40wsfrf1227%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000662.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000648.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>Jéjé</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C5293259.200931285978297317.JavaMail.www%40wsfrf1227%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">jeje-mageia at sfr.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 02:11:37 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#647">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#647">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#647">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#647">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>atilla ontas wrote: + +><i> I'm just wondering if we follow Mandriva's release cycle model. +</I> +(...) + +><i> One more thing. Do we follow Mandriva's release naming scheme? I.e. do +</I>><i> we call our first release 2011.x ? I don't like this naming scheme and +</I>><i> suggesting using number of release as naming like Mageia 1.0 or using +</I>><i> code names. +</I> +><i> What's your opinion? +</I> +What about doing both : + + +o First a conservative rolling distribution. There's a lot of demand for that kind of distribution, even Debian seems to think about a stable testing. It would be the way to use Mageia for the average desktop user. + + +o In addition an about-1-year release cycle distribution, a "snapshot" of the rolling one, supported 2 years, more suitable for entreprise/server use or for people with very low internet bandwith. + + +I'm not certain it would be more time consuming than a 6 month release cycle, and it would please a lot of people. + + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#647">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#647">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#647">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#647">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000648.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000648.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..976cae647 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000648.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cloom.20101002T022402-977%40post.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000647.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000653.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>André Machado</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cloom.20101002T022402-977%40post.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">afmachado at dcemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 02:27:00 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#648">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#648">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#648">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#648">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +><i> It makes it easy to figure out which version to install (think newcomer). +</I>><i> Also, I'd like to not do "Spring" "Fall"... , as Spring in the North is +</I>><i> Autumn in the South. +</I>><i> +</I> +Finally someone realized that "little detail" ;) . I always thought it odd to +use Mandriva Spring when he actually was launched in autumn + +However, is that only one version per year - with updates of course - it would +be best for you? + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#648">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#648">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#648">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#648">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000649.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000649.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..553f58d22 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000649.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Identifying%20Target%20Markets&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinFRGgviGLjXSM5oFkSgnQiz%3DykpGi0Sh_6f5Ug%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000645.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000657.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Identifying%20Target%20Markets&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinFRGgviGLjXSM5oFkSgnQiz%3DykpGi0Sh_6f5Ug%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 03:12:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#649">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#649">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#649">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#649">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Frank Griffin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Graham Lauder wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Oh for Jiminys' sake, is there something in the water that causes you to be so +</I>>><i> literal.  I SAID HYPOTHETICAL!  What I was trying to do was demonstrate in a +</I><SNIP> +><i> +</I>><i> OK, I'll bite the bullet and be the one to tell you.  Your style in +</I>><i> posting these comments has reeked of an assumed position of superiority, +</I> + +Oh, please ... + +Marketing +<A HREF="http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-10-01/">http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-10-01/</A> + +Experts +<A HREF="http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-05-26/">http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-05-26/</A> + +Group Discussions +<A HREF="http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-08-15/">http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-08-15/</A> + +-- +Hoyt +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#649">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#649">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#649">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#649">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000650.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000650.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d813ba395 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000650.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3C1420293720-1285984964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-488822721-%40bda2805.bisx.prod.on.blackberry%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000644.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000651.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>sorteal at gmail.com</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3C1420293720-1285984964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-488822721-%40bda2805.bisx.prod.on.blackberry%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">sorteal at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 04:02:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#650">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#650">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#650">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#650">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>As I stated before Mandriva has always done an amazing job of integrating Firefox into KDE. Yet, other distros, for whatever reason, seem to have a difficult time of it. Also, while I love Konqueror, it does have compatibility issues. Chromium, regardless of your opinion of Google, is an incredibly fast browser. + +It seems like Firefox is the favorite browser of most people on this list. Also, with the quality of the developers on this project I'm sure FF integration with KDE will be excellent! I'd love to see Chromium as the default but Firefox is an excellent browser in its own right as well. It's a win win either way. :) +Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® + +-----Original Message----- +From: Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>> +Sender: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev-bounces at mageia.org</A> +Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 01:57:12 +To: Mageia development mailing-list<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>> +Reply-To: Mageia development mailing-list <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>> +Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + +On 1 October 2010 19:20, Thierry Vignaud <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On 1 October 2010 18:54, <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sorteal at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I must agree. If FF is going to be the default then addons should be done +</I>>><i> by the user.  Although I still think a browser better suited to KDE would +</I>>><i> be a better choice. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's alreay what we do for years. +</I>><i> We install a matching browser according to the choosen desktop. +</I>><i> When the user choose KDE we default to konqueror else we default to firefox +</I>><i> through meta-task => task-kde4 => konqueror +</I>><i> +</I> +AFAICS Firefox is the default browser in KDE4: +$ grep Browser /var/lib/mandriva/kde4-profiles/common/share/config/kdeglobals +BrowserApplication=firefox + + +Konqueror is installed by default anyway. However, unfortunately +Konqueror isn't the most compatible browser out there... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#650">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#650">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#650">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#650">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000651.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000651.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c1e9ea56a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000651.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinkDvVkDa5QkTQAe0YB3Sc7oBcAA%2Bf6dRLpvsyd%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000650.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000652.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinkDvVkDa5QkTQAe0YB3Sc7oBcAA%2Bf6dRLpvsyd%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 04:09:43 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#651">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#651">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#651">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#651">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 2 October 2010 04:02, <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sorteal at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> As I stated before Mandriva has always done an amazing job of integrating Firefox into KDE.  Yet, other distros, for whatever reason, seem to have a difficult time of it.  Also, while I love Konqueror, it does have compatibility issues.  Chromium, regardless of your opinion of Google, is an incredibly fast browser. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It seems like Firefox is the favorite browser of most people on this list. Also, with the quality of the developers on this project I'm sure FF integration with KDE will be excellent!  I'd love to see Chromium as the default but Firefox is an excellent browser in its own right as well. It's a win win either way. :) +</I>><i> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -----Original Message----- +</I>><i> From: Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>> +</I>><i> Sender: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev-bounces at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 01:57:12 +</I>><i> To: Mageia development mailing-list<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Reply-To: Mageia development mailing-list <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>> +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On 1 October 2010 19:20, Thierry Vignaud <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> On 1 October 2010 18:54, <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sorteal at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I must agree. If FF is going to be the default then addons should be done +</I>>>><i> by the user.  Although I still think a browser better suited to KDE would +</I>>>><i> be a better choice. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> That's alreay what we do for years. +</I>>><i> We install a matching browser according to the choosen desktop. +</I>>><i> When the user choose KDE we default to konqueror else we default to firefox +</I>>><i> through meta-task => task-kde4 => konqueror +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> AFAICS Firefox is the default browser in KDE4: +</I>><i> $ grep Browser /var/lib/mandriva/kde4-profiles/common/share/config/kdeglobals +</I>><i> BrowserApplication=firefox +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Konqueror is installed by default anyway. However, unfortunately +</I>><i> Konqueror isn't the most compatible browser out there... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Ahmad Samir +</I>><i> +</I> +Please don't top-post when sending emails to a mailing list: +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_%28Rules%29#Bottom_Post">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_%28Rules%29#Bottom_Post</A> + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#651">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#651">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#651">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#651">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000652.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000652.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ccdce486c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000652.html @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3C1285985990.11925.5.camel%40sorteal-desktop%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000651.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000645.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Sorteal</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3C1285985990.11925.5.camel%40sorteal-desktop%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">sorteal at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 04:19:50 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#652">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#652">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#652">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#652">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> +><i> +</I>><i> Please don't top-post when sending emails to a mailing list: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_%28Rules%29#Bottom_Post">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_%28Rules%29#Bottom_Post</A> +</I> + +Apologies. ^_^ + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#652">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#652">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#652">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#652">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000653.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000653.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..df86c4872 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000653.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vjxfq9u3n7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000648.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000654.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>David W. Hodgins</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vjxfq9u3n7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">davidwhodgins at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 04:26:59 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#653">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#653">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#653">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#653">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:27:00 -0400, André Machado <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> However, is that only one version per year - with updates of course - it would +</I>><i> be best for you? +</I> +Another option, that just occurred to me. Rolling updates until +there is an update to something like glibc, that requires the +bulk of the rpm packages to need rebuilding. Then, and only +then, create a new iso/release, rather then using a set +schedule. + +Regards, Dave Hodgins +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#653">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#653">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#653">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#653">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000654.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000654.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4902b7050 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000654.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikV_WvWXmL1nOmTThQp9-nb6%2BdFkB3mpR31PviD%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000653.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000664.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikV_WvWXmL1nOmTThQp9-nb6%2BdFkB3mpR31PviD%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 04:52:38 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#654">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#654">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#654">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#654">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 2 October 2010 04:26, David W. Hodgins <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:27:00 -0400, André Machado <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>> +</I>><i> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> However, is that only one version per year - with updates of course - it +</I>>><i> would +</I>>><i> be best for you? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another option, that just occurred to me. Rolling updates until +</I>><i> there is an update to something like glibc, that requires the +</I>><i> bulk of the rpm packages to need rebuilding.  Then, and only +</I>><i> then, create a new iso/release, rather then using a set +</I>><i> schedule. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, Dave Hodgins +</I>><i> +</I> +That won't provide consistent release cycle/intervals. Better go with +the 2 release/year model. + +The argument hasn't changed, the various components included in any +Linux distro change too fast now, a release every 6 month appears to +me to be the best way to go at the moment. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#654">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#654">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#654">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#654">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000655.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000655.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..218a049e2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000655.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20do%20you%20think%20about%20create%20a%20Mageia%20Welcome%0A%20Center%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA6CD06.2080207%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000664.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000658.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?</H1> + <B>andré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20What%20do%20you%20think%20about%20create%20a%20Mageia%20Welcome%0A%20Center%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA6CD06.2080207%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 08:11:18 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#655">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#655">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#655">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#655">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> 2010/9/30 andré<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>>: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> The MCC (Mandriva Control Centre, to become Mageia Control Centre) already +</I>>><i> has most if not all the hardware configuration elements. +</I>>><i> How about adding an information page to the MCC ? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> More like a Documentation&Help section like the other sections. You +</I>><i> can have an icon for the main Mageia site, one for the local wiki page +</I>><i> according to the selected language, one for the local forum, etc. +</I>><i> whatever fits in there. +</I>><i> +</I>Exactly. +><i> You can even add an icon for the donation page :) +</I>><i> +</I>Good point. +><i> This is IMHO the most attraccting idea I have read so far. Then the +</I>><i> MCC should be renamed to "Mageia Central". Like a one-stop shopping +</I>><i> mall for configuration, information and help. +</I>><i> ____ +</I>><i> +</I>"Mageia Central" has a nice ring to it. And sums it up nicely. :) + +- André (andre999) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#655">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#655">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#655">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#655">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000656.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000656.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..34ca74585 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000656.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Some news about project + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20project&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA6E4AC.7000801%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000643.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000676.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Some news about project</H1> + <B>Jean-Michel VARVOU</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Some%20news%20about%20project&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA6E4AC.7000801%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Some news about project">jeanmichel.varvou at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 09:52:12 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#656">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#656">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#656">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#656">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 02/10/2010 01:29, Anne nicolas a écrit : +><i> Hi there +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Still a busy week in working on Mageia first setup. Here is a quick summary: +</I>><i> blog.mageia.org/?p=54 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ------- +</I>><i> Anne +</I>A translation into French. It will be relayed on MLO. If you have any +comments... + + +"Compte tenu des propositions de contributions reçues jusqu'à présent, +il semble que Mageia ait le potentiel d'être un grand succès. Pour ceux +qui s'interrogent sur ce qui se passe en ce moment, voici quelques +nouvelles sur divers sujets : + +Afin de répondre aux questions récurrentes à propos du projet Mageia, +une FAQ est désormais disponible sur le site web. N'hésitez pas à la +commenter et suggérer d'autres questions si vous les estimez nécessaire. + +L'enregistrement de l'association auprès de l'administration sera +effectué Lundi. La publication officielle devrait intervenir d'ici un +mois une fois la demande examinée. (Merci à Séverine et rtp..) + +Un manifeste Mageia est en cours de rédaction. Nous avons fourni une +liste de points pour aider Graham Lauder accompagné de quelques gars +doués en Marketing et communication afin de travailler sur une première +ébauche. + +-Une équipe d'administrateur système a été créée par Nicolas (bocklm) +pour commencer à travailler sur la nouvelle infrastructure. + +-Pour ce qui est de l'infrastructure matérielle, nous avons reçu des +propositions d'hébergement et de serveurs. Nous disposons maintenant du +matériel pour mettre en oeuvre un système de construction et héberger +les principaux services. Nous avons déjà démarré la configuration d'une +machine virtuelle offerte par Gandi.net que nous utiliserons pour +héberger les sites webs et le blog. En ce qui concerne l'hébergement des +autres serveurs, nous avons une proposition pour une période d'une année +et nous travaillons déjà sur une solution à long terme. + +Misc travaille à la planification du déploiement du système de +construction (en gros, estimée à 4 à 5 jours en partant de zéro et sans +l'installation du serveur si tout va bien) + +Olivier (Nanar) devrait bientôt annoncer des plans pour les miroirs et +une application web pour prendre soins d'eux. Nous avons déjà de +nombreuses propositions de miroirs locaux pour accueillir les paquets et +les ISO. Mais nous sommes toujours à la recherche de miroirs « Tier 1 ». + +Buchan travaille sur la partie LDAP de l'infrastructure + +Mageia a été contactée par plusieurs journaux, podcasts, webTV, web +radio ... etc, ce qui prend beaucoup de temps. Vous entendrez parler de +Mageia prochainement :) + +Les dons se portent très bien, près de 5.000 € et 100 donateurs! Nous +allons publier des rapports financiers mensuels pour que vous puissiez +suivre la façon dont ils sont utilisés. Les premières dépenses porteront +sur l'achat de disques durs, les noms de domaine et l'enregistrement de +la marque Mageia. + +Vous serez bientôt en mesure d'acheter des tee-shirts Mageia. 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We could do it to +</I>><i> be more "democratic"? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</I>><i> +</I> +This is the best solution, imho. +As in the database servers case (you choose for postgres, mysql or both at +install time). +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/4722229b/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#658">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#658">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#658">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#658">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000659.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000659.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1daab0a90 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000659.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Identifying%20Target%20Markets&In-Reply-To=%3C201010022023.26363.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000657.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000646.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets</H1> + <B>Graham Lauder</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Identifying%20Target%20Markets&In-Reply-To=%3C201010022023.26363.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets">yorick_ at openoffice.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 09:23:26 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? 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But don't expect the same stability as the fixed release, +</I>><i> you can't have both. +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, i disagree for a good reason, in free software there is no (or mainly +no) separation between new versions of a software only correcting bugs, and +new versions of the same software adding new functionnalities. Let's take an +example, digikam. +Changes from digikam 1.3 to 1.4 are bugs correction affecting digikam 1.3 and +addition of new functionnalities. So what ? I need digikam more stable so +let's use the version that corrects bugs, so the latest, but it also adds new +functionnalities that may provide bugs ... (and in the case of Digikam 1.4 it +requires KDE 4.5, unfortunately there is no update to KDE 4.5 for Mandriva +2010 !) what to do ? + +I also add that creating backports is creating new packages for older versions +that is more time to compilation, more time to ensure quality, and so. In the +whole i am not sure that it. + +There are exceptions for development, such as Scribus which delivers two +versions : +- 1.3.3.x (current and last version 1.3.3.14) which has been improved over +time by bug correction (no addition of new functionnalities) +-1.3.6, 1.3.7, 1.3.8 and 1.3.9 which are development version, adding new +functionnalities, bugs correction. +You just have to go on sourceforge to see how Scribus works : +<A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/scribus/files/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/scribus/files/</A> there is a stable version +1.3.3.14, devel versions and svn versions. Devel are quite stable, usable but +Scribus team still have them as devel versions and recommend that distribution +package 2 scribus versions : scribus package for the stable version 1.3.3.14 +and scribus-ng for development package, this is not the case for Mandriva, it +had causes some problem when i was doing Magnum since some of us were using +1.3.3.x branch others with more recent were using 1.3.6 devel branch creating +incompatibilites between files. + +So one cannot say that stability is affected by backport when backported +packages are to correct existing bugs (but maybe adding new bugs due to new +functionnalities). Noboby would say that KDE 4.1 is more stable than KDE 4.5 +but there is no means to update KDE 4.x to KDE 4.x+1 at the moment, and i +consider that must be in update policies. With Mandriva 2010 i am stick to +4.3.5 and i bet there will be no more evolution for KDE 4.3 branch. + + +-- +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#660">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#660">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#660">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#660">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000661.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000661.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8a27fac23 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000661.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimGYNB5wxswDUC10_4u%2Bp7h2sH4tbqbh%2BX8HS5Z%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000658.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000670.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimGYNB5wxswDUC10_4u%2Bp7h2sH4tbqbh%2BX8HS5Z%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">dglent at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 11:15:02 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#661">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#661">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#661">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#661">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/2 Mihai Dobrescu <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">msdobrescu at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> +</I>><i> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gustavo Giampaoli < +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Why not to use something like this? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg">http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> MS implemented it at Europe because they forced to. We could do it to +</I>>><i> be more "democratic"? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Cheers! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This is the best solution, imho. +</I>><i> As in the database servers case (you choose for postgres, mysql or both at +</I>><i> install time). +</I>><i> +</I> + +To define the default browser is very easy and fast in KDE enviroment +(systemsettings → Default Applications) +I dont think anything else about the default browser could add more comfort +than this. + +About browsers, i use konqueror and rekonq to be full integrated in KDE, but +there are still issues in both of them. May be later, one of them will take +the place of Firefox as the default. + + +-- +Dimitrios Glentadakis +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/41da8a17/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#661">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#661">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#661">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#661">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000662.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000662.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8247a32ed --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000662.html @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20101002094934.GV21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000660.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000647.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20101002094934.GV21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 11:49:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#662">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#662">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#662">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#662">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, 02 Oct 2010, Olivier Méjean wrote: + +><i> Le samedi 2 octobre 2010 02:09:47, nicolas vigier a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > This rolling release already exists, it's called the backport +</I>><i> > repository. But don't expect the same stability as the fixed release, +</I>><i> > you can't have both. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, i disagree for a good reason, in free software there is no (or mainly +</I>><i> no) separation between new versions of a software only correcting bugs, and +</I>><i> new versions of the same software adding new functionnalities. Let's take an +</I>><i> example, digikam. +</I>><i> Changes from digikam 1.3 to 1.4 are bugs correction affecting digikam 1.3 and +</I>><i> addition of new functionnalities. So what ? I need digikam more stable so +</I>><i> let's use the version that corrects bugs, so the latest, but it also adds new +</I>><i> functionnalities that may provide bugs ... (and in the case of Digikam 1.4 it +</I>><i> requires KDE 4.5, unfortunately there is no update to KDE 4.5 for Mandriva +</I>><i> 2010 !) what to do ? +</I> +Yes, new versions are fixing bugs and adding new ones. + +><i> I also add that creating backports is creating new packages for older versions +</I>><i> that is more time to compilation, more time to ensure quality, and so. In the +</I>><i> whole i am not sure that it. +</I> +Yes, that's the problem with "core part of the distribution in fixed +release, the rest in rolling release". But isn't that what you asking +for ? + +I don't understand what you want. + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#662">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#662">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#662">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#662">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000663.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000663.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a8b17e6fd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000663.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3C1286016384.5530.627.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000671.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000666.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3C1286016384.5530.627.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 12:46:24 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#663">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#663">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#663">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#663">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 13:53 -0300, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit : +><i> Why not to use something like this? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg">http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> MS implemented it at Europe because they forced to. We could do it to +</I>><i> be more "democratic"? +</I> +This dialog was a pyrrus victory for firefox, imho. + +We have in mdv : +epiphany, midori, firefox, chrome, orora, elinks, konqueror, galeon, +links, w3m, lynx, amaya, dillo, hv3, moblin-web-browser. +And we can add opera, and surely some various enlightenment browsers + +When we see how people reacted to the idea of survey, you think it is a +good idea to ask "please choose between 15 browsers" each time a new +user log in ? Should we represent the dialog if a new browser appear ? + +Would you find this "democratic" to just choose 5 of them ? + +So I say no to this idea. Asking useless questions just add burden to +the user. People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, +those that don't do not care enough. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#663">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#663">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#663">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#663">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000664.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000664.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..df40faa4d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000664.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1286015671.5530.615.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000654.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000655.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1286015671.5530.615.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 12:34:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#664">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#664">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#664">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#664">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 22:26 -0400, David W. Hodgins a écrit : +><i> On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:27:00 -0400, André Machado <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > However, is that only one version per year - with updates of course - it would +</I>><i> > be best for you? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another option, that just occurred to me. Rolling updates until +</I>><i> there is an update to something like glibc, that requires the +</I>><i> bulk of the rpm packages to need rebuilding. +</I> +Usually, glibc do not requires massive rebuild. 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I did once and broken (don't remeber when, 2009 → +</I>><i> > > 2009.1 +</I>><i> > > maybe) +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > And also it does not answer for OOo 3.2 not being available for +</I>><i> > > Mandriva 2010 +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > And finally, why waiting for a new version to update, can't it be done +</I>><i> > > regularly ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > mageia can handle better updates/backports but a for a rolling distro +</I>><i> > just use cauldron :þ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well no, cauldron is development version ;) +</I> +tbf, any rolling distro is a devel version. to be different requires an +enormous amount of testing; and even then stability cannot be guaranteed... + +i disapprove, i need stability, i couldn't care less about newer versions. + +(and besides, if you want newer versions, you can always get them from +backports) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-dev] So? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#665">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#665">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#665">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#665">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000666.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000666.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..638c0bcbe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000666.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3C201010021256.53756.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000663.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000667.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3C201010021256.53756.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 12:56:53 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#666">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#666">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#666">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#666">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op zaterdag 02 oktober 2010 12:46:24 schreef Michael Scherer: +><i> Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 13:53 -0300, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit : +</I>[...] +><i> So I say no to this idea. Asking useless questions just add burden to +</I>><i> the user. People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, +</I>><i> those that don't do not care enough. +</I> ++1 +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#666">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#666">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#666">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#666">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000667.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000667.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2a2c585ef --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000667.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin7XYydyxT0-r0DyDTJnDJfCusGgDGW8mEPf3r6%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000666.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000668.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin7XYydyxT0-r0DyDTJnDJfCusGgDGW8mEPf3r6%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 13:00:20 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#667">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#667">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#667">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#667">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/2 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> So I say no to this idea. Asking useless questions just add burden to +</I>><i> the user. People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, +</I>><i> those that don't do not care enough. +</I> +Reasonable. Can also be applied to other such things like OOo (LO) vs +koffice, kmail vs TB or other such big applications with many +alternatives. +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#667">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#667">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#667">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#667">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000668.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000668.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a78d7dc96 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000668.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik8-vRi3Rt4AVhU5AbztBNd5iW08Xhrb201ZwxN%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000667.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000678.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik8-vRi3Rt4AVhU5AbztBNd5iW08Xhrb201ZwxN%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 13:07:50 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#668">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#668">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#668">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#668">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, +</I>><i> those that don't do not care enough. +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Michael Scherer +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>True, I'm just lazy, I will always use FF and I would have liked to have it +setup at OS install. A choice from a list would have been fine for me, in +order to have it installed at the first login already. +I.e. to depend on the admin/person that performs the OS install, rather than +end-user, that could be the same. +There is no distro having all the apps in the world. Some generally +preferred (i.e. having enough users of that distro on their side) are always +in list. Like Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Konqueror and so. Not all the similar +apps made ever in the world. +A poll to see if there is anybody interested in some app to come with the +distro would be nice. This would make the difference from the good old MDV +policy. +I truly hope to be possible to propose and vote some apps to be included in +the distro. +I know it is hard for packagers and testers. 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If you only consider one +</I>><i> >> without balancing, making it consistent with the other, you're not +</I>><i> >> going down the right path. The interface, the whole experience with it +</I>><i> >> is the product. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > sure, but appearance is the key point. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Archos is a good example of what we should not do ... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I'm still amazed by the technicals limits of the iPhone, and how +</I>><i> > people can still want to buy them ... same for iPod ... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > iPod : no mp3, no FM radio, no USB mass storage support +</I>><i> > iPhone : no standard visio, no ability to create without iTunes or +</I>><i> > third party tools photo albums, less capable facebook integration, no +</I>><i> > FM radio, no flash, and so on ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> iProducts don't have all the bullet points, all the technical specs that an +</I>><i> UberGeek would like. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the +</I>><i> ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of +</I>><i> having 100% of specs and getting them to be just 50% workable, regular +</I>><i> people (95% of the population) like their products. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Apple's approach mimics the Unix philosophy (every small tool covers a task +</I>><i> extremely well, and integrates with the rest of the Unix system): every +</I>><i> single technical bullet point included does a task extremely well with the +</I>><i> rest of the tools and look'n'feel. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome. +</I>><i> draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO, Mageia should improve on Mandriva, not try to get just "bullet +</I>><i> points" +</I>><i> on what our distro does. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Let's pick our battles, go the Unix way, make sure what Mageia does, it +</I>><i> does +</I>><i> very well. And as Linux is Linux is Linux is Linux, it will do everything +</I>><i> else as well (and the kitchen sink). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Salut, +</I>><i> Sinner +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>IMHO, a home user would have one major DE, KDE or Gnome or other. I think it +is unlikely to change it (maybe once in 10 years). The key in appearance is +to have a nice aspect in each DE rather be the same look in Gnome or KDE or +other. I guess that each environment will fit some user's taste in its +native look. +The Drake tools must be cross DE and consistent. +Mac OS is an unix derivative. I love their look and ergonomy. They have a +serious team of ergonomists and designers. This is what a Linux distro needs +to be successful. i.e. Mageia. The IMHO, Apple products are too expensive, a +regular PC at the same performance and of a acceptable quality offers the +same for a half of the price. And you could renew it faster for the same +money. Their apps are brilliant from usability point of view and very good +looking. They focus on a very limited hardware in variety. This is their +advantage. Their hardware is also the best in quality (this is why they cost +so much also). 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As an user (just plain user) i do not +</I>><i> think that installing a distribution is a goal, just a mean to use my +</I>><i> computer, so i wish i could not spend time installing a distribution every 6 +</I>><i> months or every year. +</I> +Unity linux does it already +( <A HREF="http://docs.unity-linux.org/Unity_Versions">http://docs.unity-linux.org/Unity_Versions</A> ) + +The concept of rolling release by itself is unclear and blurry. + +First semantically, if the characteristics of a rolling release is to +have no release, how can it be rolling ? + +Secondary, having constantly updated packages doesn't say much about how +and what are upgraded. You can have development distribution like +rawhide that are not mean to be fully usable and are broken quite often, +you have debian sid and testing, who differ greatly in admissibility of +packages, and whose goal is to be released from time to time ( which can +lead to software very outdated, preventing big transitions like kde4 who +went in sid, ie the most up to date version of debian ) quite late, or +python 2.6 ). + +Knowing what is upgraded and how impact the stability and is usually +chosen by the purpose of the distribution. Hence the name "rolling +release" do not really tell much about what should be done exactly. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#670">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#670">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#670">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#670">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000671.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000671.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4ead79dee --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000671.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1286015585.5530.614.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000670.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000663.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1286015585.5530.614.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 12:33:05 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#671">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#671">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#671">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#671">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 23:16 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit : +><i> Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 22:57:06, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > [...] +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > i don't understand, if you click the applet every time there's an update, +</I>><i> > then when there's a new version, the you also click the applet and it +</I>><i> > updates... there isn't any real difference from a user pov... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Have you ever tried ? I did once and broken (don't remeber when, 2009 → 2009.1 +</I>><i> maybe) +</I> +I do it for my server and it work. Now, that doesn't mean that it will +work for everything, but as most packagers know, that's not a so easy +task. And since no enough tests on this part are done ( ie, the QA test +upgrade from default installation, some people test their own upgrade, +but that's not enough ), there is possibly undetected bugs. + +Now the question is if people do not test version upgrade and report +bugs, what make you think that a "rolling release" will be different ? + +More ever, since there is no real version to start the upgrade, how do +you expect the packager to reproduce all upgrades bugs reports if they +have to downgrade to a specific version of the distribution ( by +specific being "a snapshot of all rpms installed" ) ? + +><i> And also it does not answer for OOo 3.2 not being available for Mandriva 2010 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And finally, why waiting for a new version to update, can't it be done +</I>><i> regularly ? +</I> +This requires work, that's simple. As I said numerous time in the past, +thing do not happen by magic, someone has to do it. So far, I am quite +unconvinced by the need to upgrade open office, vs the sheer amount of +work this could mean. So you will need to convince someone else than me +to do the work, or become a packager and do it yourself ( and take care +of bug reports ). + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#671">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#671">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#671">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#671">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000672.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000672.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..417a291d9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000672.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] So? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20So%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1286016825.5530.630.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000681.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000665.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] So?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20So%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1286016825.5530.630.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] So?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 12:53:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#672">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#672">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#672">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#672">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 21:56 +0200, Remy CLOUARD a écrit : +><i> On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 02:16:34AM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: +</I> +><i> > I may have forgot some parts, and some people, but I think that +</I>><i> > summarizing everything that was since a few days. Of course, you can +</I>><i> > also add the work of AUFML for donation, the part about blog done by +</I>><i> > damien, etc. +</I>><i> Mmh from your answer I don’t see if you planned to use the server I’ve +</I>><i> proposed you +</I> +For the moment, no. + +><i> It expires on the 9th of every month. I can renew it for this month, but +</I>><i> an answer if you plan to use it or not would be appreciated, I prefer to +</I>><i> give 35 euros each month to Mageia instead of paying a dedicated server +</I>><i> for nothing ;) +</I> +Well, without offense, I think it is better to directly rent the server +from the association ( less administrative burden in case of problem, +etc ). + +><i> Also, please ping me if you wish to set up a gitorious or a redmine on +</I>><i> it, want root access or something like that. +</I> +So far, nothing have been decided, this would be a mid-term project, ie +likely in 6 to 8 months, and that was just a idea. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#672">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#672">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#672">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#672">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000673.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000673.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3cc3e31e7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000673.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201010021450.57119.mageia%40delaur.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000669.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000679.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>Jérôme Martin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201010021450.57119.mageia%40delaur.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">mageia at delaur.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 14:50:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#673">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#673">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#673">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#673">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010, Olivier Méjean a écrit : +><i> Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 08:51:34, atilla ontas a écrit : +</I> +><i> > What's your opinion? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What about a rolling distribution ? As an user (just plain user) i do not +</I>><i> think that installing a distribution is a goal, just a mean to use my +</I>><i> computer, so i wish i could not spend time installing a distribution every +</I>><i> 6 months or every year. +</I>><i> +</I> +My opinion is nearly the same: what is the need to provide a new version each +6 months? The marketing point of view is not a valid answer since we do not +need to satsify shareholders or follow the market. + +So when a new version is needed? My point of view is that a new version is +needed when a big change will occur for exemple a new major release of KDE or +gnome, Xorg, perl, python, jdk, ... + +We need to change our view. Actually, the date of the release is decide and +the deciders (maketting, CEO, CTO, ?) choose which softwares will be include. +I propose to look at release date of the main softwares and decide when a new +version will be proposed. + +For smaller software, we do not need to wait for a new version of the distro. +Just provide it as we do with the backport repository. + +And no, rolling distro does mean use cauldron, since the system is not +supposed to work properly and where critical breakage can appear. + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#673">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#673">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#673">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#673">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000674.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000674.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9376624c7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000674.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%0A%09on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinA3tKs%2ByRBneVTCYpBMb9t8X%2BttVyFdW%2BaF-4j%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000679.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000677.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Fabrice Facorat</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%0A%09on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinA3tKs%2ByRBneVTCYpBMb9t8X%2BttVyFdW%2BaF-4j%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 15:49:01 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#674">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#674">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#674">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#674">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/1 Sinner from the Prairy <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> Fabrice Facorat wrote: +</I> + +><i> But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the +</I>><i> ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of +</I>><i> having 100% of specs and getting them to be just 50% workable, regular +</I>><i> people (95% of the population) like their products. +</I> +you're 100% right + +><i> Apple's approach mimics the Unix philosophy (every small tool covers a task +</I>><i> extremely well, and integrates with the rest of the Unix system): every +</I>><i> single technical bullet point included does a task extremely well with the +</I>><i> rest of the tools and look'n'feel. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome. +</I>><i> draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well. +</I> +some tools does not work correctly however and are buggy + +><i> IMHO, Mageia should improve on Mandriva, not try to get just "bullet points" +</I>><i> on what our distro does. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Let's pick our battles, go the Unix way, make sure what Mageia does, it does +</I>><i> very well. And as Linux is Linux is Linux is Linux, it will do everything +</I>><i> else as well (and the kitchen sink). +</I> ++1 + +-- +Close the World, Open the Net +<A HREF="http://www.linux-wizard.net">http://www.linux-wizard.net</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#674">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#674">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#674">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#674">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000675.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000675.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4292c327c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000675.html @@ -0,0 +1,161 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinh44oy3y%2BwK6GeSRB5FWYZ4bvOW0Cwz_SHTi7u%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000685.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000680.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?</H1> + <B>R James</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20i686%20must%20be%20Pentium%20II%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinh44oy3y%2BwK6GeSRB5FWYZ4bvOW0Cwz_SHTi7u%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?">upsnag2 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 16:14:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#675">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#675">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#675">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#675">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 9/26/10, Giuseppe Ghibò <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ghibomgx at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> As I said I would see someone with such hardware, taking a CD of latest MDV +</I>><i> or cooker and try to install to do something and do a report. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That reminds me also one suggestion. If someone has old hardware that not +</I>><i> in use anymore then could be donated to who is willing to test the latest +</I>><i> MDV|Mageia on it. It's not ironic (I think this is a brainstorming), or I'm +</I>><i> not kidding, but there could be an wiki hardware section for that. +</I>><i> +</I>I'm typing this from a 1997 AMD K6-233MHz system with 128MB running +Mandriva 2010.1 At the time of installation, it only had 96MB and the +text mode installer was slow but worked OK. I did a minimal install +then added task-x11, xdm and icewm post-install. Even after booting +into X, its surprisingly fast. From pressing enter in the GRUB menu +to XDM takes 53 seconds. According to /var/log/prcsys.log, the init +scripts portion takes 19 seconds. + +I did make a few post-installation tweaks: + +1. Remove msec. +2. Disable PulseAudio. +3. Delete /etc/X11/xinit.d/70net_applet + (net_applet is a pig and not needed for static wired connection) + +Google Chromium is finally a browser that can handle gmail on +low-resource systems. Of course, it won't be playing YouTube +videos but for basic email and web-surfing, this system is usable. + +Here are some interesting outputs: + +"free" right after logging into IceWM: (27MB RAM, no swap) +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guest at jarrio</A> ~]$ free + total used free shared buffers cached +Mem: 122812 83684 39128 0 6728 49652 +-/+ buffers/cache: 27304 95508 +Swap: 524144 0 524144 + +"free" while running Google Chromium: (78MB RAM, 6MB swap) +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guest at jarrio</A> ~]$ free + total used free shared buffers cached +Mem: 122812 115992 6820 0 620 35516 +-/+ buffers/cache: 79856 42956 +Swap: 524144 6632 517512 + +CPU information: +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guest at jarrio</A> ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo +processor : 0 +vendor_id : AuthenticAMD +cpu family : 5 +model : 6 +model name : AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions +stepping : 2 +cache size : 64 KB +fdiv_bug : no +hlt_bug : no +f00f_bug : no +coma_bug : no +fpu : yes +fpu_exception : yes +cpuid level : 1 +wp : yes +flags : fpu vme de pse msr cx8 mmx up +bogomips : 449.53 +clflush size : 32 +cache_alignment : 32 +address sizes : 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual +power management: + +Kernel information: +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guest at jarrio</A> ~]$ uname -a +Linux jarrio.upsnag.priv 2.6.33.7-desktop586-2mnb #1 SMP Mon Sep 20 +18:19:58 UTC 2010 i586 i586 i386 GNU/Linux + +Hardware information: +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guest at jarrio</A> ~]$ lspcidrake +pata_ali : ALi Corporation|M5229 IDE [STORAGE_IDE] (rev: 20) +Card:Trident-based cards: Trident Microsystems|TGUI 9660/938x/968x +[DISPLAY_VGA] (rev: d3) +8139too : D-Link System Inc|RTL8139 Ethernet +[NETWORK_ETHERNET] (rev: 10) +snd_ens1371 : Ensoniq|5880B [AudioPCI] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO] (rev: 02) +alim7101_wdt : ALi Corporation|M1533/M1535/M1543 PCI to ISA Bridge +[Aladdin IV/V/V+] [BRIDGE_ISA] (rev: b4) +unknown : ALi Corporation|M1531 [Aladdin IV] [BRIDGE_HOST] (rev: b3) + +The old Trident TGUI graphics card only has 2MB RAM. +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">1024x768 at 16bit</A> video works fine for 2D. :o) + +On the front-panel of this system, there is the old LED which says +"233" with the "Turbo" button enabled and "133" with it disabled. +That could make an interesting photo for proving that Mandriva +and soon Mageia *can* run on legacy hardware. + +Not sure if this was helpful but perhaps its a good data point? 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Here is a quick +</I>><i> summary: blog.mageia.org/?p=54 +</I> +this link is not clickable here (KMail). Here is a better link: + +<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=54">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=54</A> + +Thanks for the update. + +Regards, + + Shlomi Fish +><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ------- +</I>><i> Anne +</I> +-- +----------------------------------------------------------------- +Shlomi Fish <A HREF="http://www.shlomifish.org/">http://www.shlomifish.org/</A> +Original Riddles - <A HREF="http://www.shlomifish.org/puzzles/">http://www.shlomifish.org/puzzles/</A> + +<rindolf> She's a hot chick. 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They work well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> some tools does not work correctly however and are buggy +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Better is to fix them instead of rewrite all. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/6b183435/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#677">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#677">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#677">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#677">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000678.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000678.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a03f6a8fe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000678.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CFC3042FE-11D6-4139-8D7E-0A208931025A%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000668.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000681.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>SinnerBOFH</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CFC3042FE-11D6-4139-8D7E-0A208931025A%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 18:15:43 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#678">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#678">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#678">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#678">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> So I say no to this idea. Asking useless questions just add burden to +</I>><i> the user. People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, +</I>><i> those that don't do not care enough. +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Michael Scherer +</I> ++1 + +Majority of users do not want choice. + +Those of us who want choice are knowledgeable enough to find out how to install $AlternativeSoftware. + +Salut, +Sinner +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#678">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#678">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#678">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#678">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000679.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000679.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..38fa73054 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000679.html @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim-ZL3_u9TkaG7CY%2B8VngxbvSFfFK%3DahsH%2B4NiX%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000673.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000674.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim-ZL3_u9TkaG7CY%2B8VngxbvSFfFK%3DahsH%2B4NiX%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 18:59:55 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#679">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#679">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#679">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#679">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 2 October 2010 14:50, Jérôme Martin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at delaur.net</A>> wrote: +><i> Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010, Olivier Méjean a écrit : +</I>>><i> Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 08:51:34, atilla ontas a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> > What's your opinion? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What about a rolling distribution ? As an user (just plain user) i do not +</I>>><i> think that installing a distribution is a goal, just a mean to use my +</I>>><i> computer, so i wish i could not spend time installing a distribution every +</I>>><i>  6 months or every year. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My opinion is nearly the same: what is the need to provide a new version each +</I>><i> 6 months? The marketing point of view is not a valid answer since we do not +</I>><i> need to satsify shareholders or follow the market. +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes, but you have a distro to maintain, a reputation to uphold... + +><i> So when a new version is needed? My point of view is that a new version is +</I>><i> needed when a big change will occur for exemple a new major release of KDE or +</I>><i> gnome, Xorg, perl, python, jdk, ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We need to change our view. Actually, the date of the release is decide and +</I>><i> the deciders (maketting, CEO, CTO, ?) choose which softwares will be include. +</I>><i> I propose to look at release date of the main softwares and decide when a new +</I>><i> version will be proposed. +</I>><i> +</I> +Hmm, no, IINM, that would be the release engineers job. + +><i> For smaller software, we do not need to wait for a new version of the distro. +</I>><i> Just provide it as we do with the backport repository. +</I> +New version => new features + new bugs; anyone who ran cooker for a +good amount of time have witnessed this fact.... + +><i> +</I>><i> And no, rolling distro does mean use cauldron, since the system is not +</I>><i> supposed to work properly and where critical breakage can appear. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Ah, yes, so you want a rolling release, just like Cauldron will be, +but that's not broken; now how should one go about guaranteeing that +this will actually work out OK? + +A rolling distro means double work for the devs and packagers as a new +version may just introduce new bugs too, now they don't provide the +new versions in a controlled development release where you're warned +that "this is a development release not suitable for day-to-day +production machines", or in a "unsupported backports" repo, no, it'll +just go to the stable release too..... + +Now don't only think about a Mageia installation on a personal +computer, where even if the system is totally hosed you can easily do +a new install or restore a backup (then update to latest), but you +also have to bear in mind users who have servers doing all sorts of +jobs, they want stability over new-shiny-versions; the same goes for +school/university labs... etc. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#679">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#679">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#679">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#679">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000680.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000680.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1a187b1ef --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000680.html @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Epoll%20need%20translation&In-Reply-To=%3C20101002173414.GB1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000675.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000683.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation</H1> + <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Epoll%20need%20translation&In-Reply-To=%3C20101002173414.GB1637%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 19:34:14 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#680">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#680">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#680">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#680">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>The futur of internet need you ! + +The goal of the EPOLL project was to write an OSS software to perform +vote, respecting everything you can expect about a vote (anonymous +ballot, delay, transparency). + +It seems the software will be use by Mageia (it has been also used by +the University of Versailles-St Quentin and mandrivafr). + +The first version has been written because it has been decided at my +work to elect people using a web application. + +As consequence of this, Epoll has been mostly written in... French +(sorry :). + +The next version will included several new features, one of them is +the support of I18N \o/. + +I am now looking for people to translate it (and fixing my english, very +good as may see in my email :). + +The software is written in PERL + Postgresql. + +The project URL: <A HREF="https://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll">https://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll</A> (French /o\) +The devel SVN tree: <A HREF="http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll/svn/trunk/">http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll/svn/trunk/</A> (ro) + +Patch are welcome. +If you need help to add the new language, just mail me. + +Regards. + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/29142861/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#680">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#680">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#680">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#680">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000681.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000681.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f5caf41dd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000681.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3Ci87tja%242js%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000678.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000672.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Marc Paré</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3Ci87tja%242js%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">marc at marcpare.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 20:27:54 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-dev] So? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#681">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#681">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#681">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#681">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> +</I>><i> Majority of users do not want choice. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Those of us who want choice are knowledgeable enough to find out how to install $AlternativeSoftware. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Salut, +</I>><i> Sinner +</I> +I agree with this statement. Human nature, being what it is, will always +look for the shortest and easiest route. + +Marc + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-dev] So? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#681">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#681">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#681">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#681">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000682.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000682.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..465cd9751 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000682.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201010022029.10528.anaselli%40linux.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000686.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>Angelo Naselli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201010022029.10528.anaselli%40linux.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">anaselli at linux.it + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 20:29:10 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#682">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#682">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#682">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#682">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>In data venerdì 1 ottobre 2010 22:51:48, David W. Hodgins ha scritto: +><i> If the release number was no longer part of the rpm name, packages that +</I>><i> were not changed (which I would expect to be the bulk of them), would not +</I>><i> have to be recompiled, or downloaded/installed, every six months. That +</I>><i> would greatly reduce the amount of work for the developers, and the users. +</I>OTOH you are not sure that some packages when you upgrade your system +are there because they are older or newer. + +I was one who wanted the release number into the rpm name when it was a +proposal, and i'm yet sure it was (and should be) a good idea. +You can avoid to rebuild your packages if you think they are compatible with +an incoming release, there's no problem to read old distro version in them, +but if they don't work users can complain that they have not been rebuilt... +and (often) upgrades and backports don't fail to upgrade same package version +from a distro release and the next one. +Avoid release number instead, can cause problems when a backport has been +installed, for glibc incompatibility for instance. Same name, same package +version but built in backport for stable release and in developer for incoming +means it won't be upgraded when developer's becomes new official. + +My 2€ cents + +-- +Angelo +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 198 bytes +Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/b8ecd421/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#682">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#682">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#682">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#682">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000683.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000683.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7dcc76939 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000683.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Epoll%20need%20translation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DPV7-LXuzrqKB7zdCzKSF8Sh7kWyYfuf35v3Xz%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000680.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000686.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation</H1> + <B>Rémi Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Epoll%20need%20translation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DPV7-LXuzrqKB7zdCzKSF8Sh7kWyYfuf35v3Xz%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation">rverschelde at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 20:50:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#683">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#683">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#683">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#683">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/2 Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> + +><i> The futur of internet need you ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The goal of the EPOLL project was to write an OSS software to perform +</I>><i> vote, respecting everything you can expect about a vote (anonymous +</I>><i> ballot, delay, transparency). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It seems the software will be use by Mageia (it has been also used by +</I>><i> the University of Versailles-St Quentin and mandrivafr). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The first version has been written because it has been decided at my +</I>><i> work to elect people using a web application. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As consequence of this, Epoll has been mostly written in... French +</I>><i> (sorry :). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The next version will included several new features, one of them is +</I>><i> the support of I18N \o/. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I am now looking for people to translate it (and fixing my english, very +</I>><i> good as may see in my email :). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The software is written in PERL + Postgresql. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The project URL: <A HREF="https://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll">https://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll</A> (French /o\) +</I>><i> The devel SVN tree: <A HREF="http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll/svn/trunk/">http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll/svn/trunk/</A> (ro) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Patch are welcome. +</I>><i> If you need help to add the new language, just mail me. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards. +</I>><i> +</I> +Hi, +I'd like to help with the English version. I know neither PERL nor +Postgresql, but I may be able to do some translation. +As a French student, I find it harder to translate from French to English +than the other way, but if there are some proofreaders and/or other +translators, it should be okay. + +Regards, +Rémi V. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101002/fc5e54ba/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#683">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#683">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#683">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#683">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000684.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000684.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..812091755 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000684.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%0A%09on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimjgHq581qngOVXeLyTQG4pgep9EpnQ7RwxqqON%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000677.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000685.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Fabrice Facorat</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%0A%09on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimjgHq581qngOVXeLyTQG4pgep9EpnQ7RwxqqON%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 21:50:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#684">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#684">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#684">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#684">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2 octobre 2010 17:52, Nicolas Lécureuil <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">neoclust.mageia at gmail.com</A>> a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2010/10/2 Fabrice Facorat <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com</A>> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 2010/10/1 Sinner from the Prairy <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> > Fabrice Facorat wrote: +</I> +>><i> > Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome. +</I>>><i> > draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> some tools does not work correctly however and are buggy +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Better  is to fix them instead of rewrite all. +</I> +you know, when something have been broken for more than 2 years ... at +some point you may think that the best would be to just change it ;-) + + + +-- +Close the World, Open the Net +<A HREF="http://www.linux-wizard.net">http://www.linux-wizard.net</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#684">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#684">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#684">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#684">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000685.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000685.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2edf27a7f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000685.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%0A%09on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinqKfSPpGkoo%2BNd17zGZNZ5FPuEuaVnms1fvQSC%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000684.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000675.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%0A%09on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinqKfSPpGkoo%2BNd17zGZNZ5FPuEuaVnms1fvQSC%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 22:03:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#685">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#685">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#685">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#685">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 2 October 2010 21:50, Fabrice Facorat <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Le 2 octobre 2010 17:52, Nicolas Lécureuil <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">neoclust.mageia at gmail.com</A>> a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 2010/10/2 Fabrice Facorat <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fabrice.facorat at gmail.com</A>> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 2010/10/1 Sinner from the Prairy <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sinnerbofh at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>>><i> > Fabrice Facorat wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>>><i> > Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome. +</I>>>><i> > draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> some tools does not work correctly however and are buggy +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Better  is to fix them instead of rewrite all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> you know, when something have been broken for more than 2 years ... at +</I>><i> some point you may think that the best would be to just change it ;-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Close the World, Open the Net +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.linux-wizard.net">http://www.linux-wizard.net</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +Specifying what exactly is wrong is an essential issue here: +- Just "perl is hard to understand" isn't a problem for users, users +don't code it. +- Not being used by other distros is again not a problem, each distro +has native tools that no other distros use (as misc said a couple of +emails up) + +So, no, I wouldn't throw my old box out the window because if it works +even if it's slow, until I buy a new box / can afford a new box. +drakxtools work, until a viable alternative, if needed at all, is +provided they should be kept. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#685">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#685">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#685">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#685">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000686.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000686.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..05a4389e0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/000686.html @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Epoll%20need%20translation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik4CuO7T1cYEBMzgf5OjoqpVbXbuMnXm7Lg6rVk%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000683.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000682.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation</H1> + <B>Raphaël Jadot</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Epoll%20need%20translation&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTik4CuO7T1cYEBMzgf5OjoqpVbXbuMnXm7Lg6rVk%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation">ashledombos at hodo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Oct 2 22:31:47 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#686">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#686">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#686">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#686">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 2 octobre 2010 20:50, Rémi Verschelde <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rverschelde at gmail.com</A>> a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> 2010/10/2 Olivier Thauvin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The futur of internet need you ! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The goal of the EPOLL project was to write an OSS software to perform +</I>>><i> vote, respecting everything you can expect about a vote (anonymous +</I>>><i> ballot, delay, transparency). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It seems the software will be use by Mageia (it has been also used by +</I>>><i> the University of Versailles-St Quentin and mandrivafr). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The first version has been written because it has been decided at my +</I>>><i> work to elect people using a web application. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As consequence of this, Epoll has been mostly written in... French +</I>>><i> (sorry :). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The next version will included several new features, one of them is +</I>>><i> the support of I18N \o/. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I am now looking for people to translate it (and fixing my english, very +</I>>><i> good as may see in my email :). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The software is written in PERL + Postgresql. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The project URL: <A HREF="https://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll">https://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll</A> (French /o\) +</I>>><i> The devel SVN tree: <A HREF="http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll/svn/trunk/">http://forge.ipsl.jussieu.fr/epoll/svn/trunk/</A> (ro) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Patch are welcome. +</I>>><i> If you need help to add the new language, just mail me. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Regards. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hi, +</I>><i> I'd like to help with the English version. I know neither PERL nor +</I>><i> Postgresql, but I may be able to do some translation. +</I>><i> As a French student, I find it harder to translate from French to English +</I>><i> than the other way, but if there are some proofreaders and/or other +</I>><i> translators, it should be okay. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Rémi V. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Great software, thank you :) +I have got the same problem as Rémi, i am a native french speaker, so... + +Maybe you could ask to mageia-discussions also ? + +Raphaël +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#686">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#686">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#686">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#686">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f3866a3cc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,267 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 2 October 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>2 October 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Oct 2 01:29:04 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Oct 2 22:31:47 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 44<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="657"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="667"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="658"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="668"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="669"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="649"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="674"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="684"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="676"> </A> +<I>Shlomi Fish +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="661"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="645"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="653"> </A> +<I>David W. 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+</A><A NAME="682"> </A> +<I>Angelo Naselli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="681"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="644"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="651"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="654"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="679"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="685"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="670"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="671"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="664"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="663"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-dev] So? +</A><A NAME="672"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="678"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="652"> </A> +<I>Sorteal +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A><A NAME="680"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="656"> </A> +<I>Jean-Michel VARVOU +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="665"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="666"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A><A NAME="683"> </A> +<I>Rémi Verschelde +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center? +</A><A NAME="655"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="650"> </A> +<I>sorteal at gmail.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="643"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="646"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="662"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sat Oct 2 22:31:47 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Oct 2 22:32:13 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..33c3fdddb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,267 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 2 October 2010 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>2 October 2010 Archives by date</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Oct 2 01:29:04 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Oct 2 22:31:47 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 44<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="643"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="644"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="645"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="646"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="647"> </A> +<I>Jéjé +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="648"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="649"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="650"> </A> +<I>sorteal at gmail.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="651"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="652"> </A> +<I>Sorteal +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="653"> </A> +<I>David W. Hodgins +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="654"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center? +</A><A NAME="655"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="659"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="656"> </A> +<I>Jean-Michel VARVOU +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="657"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="658"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="660"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="661"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="662"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="670"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="671"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="664"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="663"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-dev] So? +</A><A NAME="672"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="665"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="666"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="667"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="668"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="669"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="673"> </A> +<I>Jérôme Martin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="674"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="675"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="676"> </A> +<I>Shlomi Fish +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="677"> </A> +<I>Nicolas Lécureuil +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="678"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="679"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A><A NAME="680"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="681"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="682"> </A> +<I>Angelo Naselli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A><A NAME="683"> </A> +<I>Rémi Verschelde +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="684"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="685"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A><A NAME="686"> </A> +<I>Raphaël Jadot +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sat Oct 2 22:31:47 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Oct 2 22:32:13 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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Hodgins +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="654"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="660"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="662"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="670"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="671"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="664"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="665"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="673"> </A> +<I>Jérôme Martin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="679"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="682"> </A> +<I>Angelo Naselli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="675"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="645"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="649"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="659"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="657"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-dev] So? +</A><A NAME="672"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="643"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="656"> </A> +<I>Jean-Michel VARVOU +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="676"> </A> +<I>Shlomi Fish +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="644"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="650"> </A> +<I>sorteal at gmail.com +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="651"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="652"> </A> +<I>Sorteal +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="658"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="661"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="663"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="666"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="667"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="668"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="678"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="681"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center? +</A><A NAME="655"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sat Oct 2 22:31:47 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Oct 2 22:32:13 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7fafa5529 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101002/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,349 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 2 October 2010 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>2 October 2010 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sat Oct 2 01:29:04 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Oct 2 22:31:47 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 44<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01285975744- --> +<LI><A HREF="000643.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="643"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285975744-01286005932- --> +<LI><A HREF="000656.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="656"> </A> +<I>Jean-Michel VARVOU +</I> + +<!--1 01285975744-01286030507- --> +<LI><A HREF="000676.html">[Mageia-dev] Some news about project +</A><A NAME="676"> </A> +<I>Shlomi Fish +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01285977432- --> +<LI><A HREF="000644.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="644"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285977432-01285984977- --> +<LI><A HREF="000650.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="650"> </A> +<I>sorteal at gmail.com +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285977432-01285984977-01285985383- --> +<LI><A HREF="000651.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="651"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285977432-01285984977-01285985383-01285985990- --> +<LI><A HREF="000652.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="652"> </A> +<I>Sorteal +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285978004- --> +<LI><A HREF="000645.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="645"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285978004-01285981936- --> +<LI><A HREF="000649.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="649"> </A> +<I>Hoyt Duff +</I> + +<!--1 01285978004-01286006351- --> +<LI><A HREF="000657.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="657"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285978004-01286006351-01286004206- --> +<LI><A HREF="000659.html">[Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets +</A><A NAME="659"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285978187- --> +<LI><A HREF="000646.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="646"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285978187-01286008463- --> +<LI><A HREF="000660.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="660"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285978187-01286008463-01286012974- --> +<LI><A HREF="000662.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="662"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285978297- --> +<LI><A HREF="000647.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="647"> </A> +<I>Jéjé +</I> + +<!--0 01285979220- --> +<LI><A HREF="000648.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="648"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285979220-01285986419- --> +<LI><A HREF="000653.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="653"> </A> +<I>David W. Hodgins +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285979220-01285986419-01285987958- --> +<LI><A HREF="000654.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="654"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--2 01285979220-01285986419-01286015671- --> +<LI><A HREF="000664.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="664"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01285999878- --> +<LI><A HREF="000655.html">[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center? +</A><A NAME="655"> </A> +<I>andré +</I> + +<!--0 01286006541- --> +<LI><A HREF="000658.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="658"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01286006541-01286010902- --> +<LI><A HREF="000661.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="661"> </A> +<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01286014544- --> +<LI><A HREF="000670.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="670"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--0 01286015585- --> +<LI><A HREF="000671.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="671"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--0 01286016384- --> +<LI><A HREF="000663.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="663"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01286016384-01286017013- --> +<LI><A HREF="000666.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="666"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--1 01286016384-01286017220- --> +<LI><A HREF="000667.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="667"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<!--1 01286016384-01286017670- --> +<LI><A HREF="000668.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="668"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<!--1 01286016384-01286036143- --> +<LI><A HREF="000678.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="678"> </A> +<I>SinnerBOFH +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01286016384-01286036143-01286044074- --> +<LI><A HREF="000681.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="681"> </A> +<I>Marc Paré +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01286016825- --> +<LI><A HREF="000672.html">[Mageia-dev] So? +</A><A NAME="672"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--0 01286016841- --> +<LI><A HREF="000665.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="665"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--0 01286018934- --> +<LI><A HREF="000669.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="669"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<!--0 01286023857- --> +<LI><A HREF="000673.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="673"> </A> +<I>Jérôme Martin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01286023857-01286038795- --> +<LI><A HREF="000679.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="679"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01286027341- --> +<LI><A HREF="000674.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="674"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01286027341-01286034767- --> +<LI><A HREF="000677.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="677"> </A> +<I>Nicolas Lécureuil +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01286027341-01286034767-01286049030- --> +<LI><A HREF="000684.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="684"> </A> +<I>Fabrice Facorat +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01286027341-01286034767-01286049030-01286049814- --> +<LI><A HREF="000685.html">[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="685"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01286028875- --> +<LI><A HREF="000675.html">[Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ? +</A><A NAME="675"> </A> +<I>R James +</I> + +<!--0 01286040854- --> +<LI><A HREF="000680.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A><A NAME="680"> </A> +<I>Olivier Thauvin +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01286040854-01286045444- --> +<LI><A HREF="000683.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A><A NAME="683"> </A> +<I>Rémi Verschelde +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01286040854-01286045444-01286051507- --> +<LI><A HREF="000686.html">[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation +</A><A NAME="686"> </A> +<I>Raphaël Jadot +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01286044150- --> +<LI><A HREF="000682.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A><A NAME="682"> </A> +<I>Angelo Naselli +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sat Oct 2 22:31:47 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Oct 2 22:32:13 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |