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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-artwork%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-artwork%5D%20Mageia%202%20technical%20specifications&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTik6z2yjMS9Kh-M_-McoNsgBMV-q%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-artwork] Mageia 2 technical specifications">ennael at mageia.org
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+ <I>Fri Jul 1 11:16:32 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi there
+
+As said during our last meeting, here is the review for proposed
+specifications on Mageia wiki. Comments are not about we will do or not
+(unless it was not reasonable) but:
+- ask for more information when needed
+- give a minimal status
+- ask for discussions when we are talking a very intrusive modification
+
+So please have a look on this page:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+especially on comments
+
+Now we need to organize work for all this. As a proposal all specs will be
+reported in Bugzilla with a given target so that we can follow it in coming
+months. You can start doing it if you are especially interested in one of
+them.t prio
+
+Please do not add new proposals on that page as it's coming after deadline.
+We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas
+here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+
+Of course as you cnan see all these proposals are implying packagers, QA but
+also artwork and marcom teams. Stay connected! :)
+
+If you want to comment these proposals please create one thread /proposal so
+that we can work on it properly. If you are interested in one of these, add
+your name on wiki.
+
+Cheers
+
+--
+Anne
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+<PRE>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please do not add new proposals on that page as it's coming after deadline.
+</I>&gt;<i> We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas
+</I>&gt;<i> here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas</A>
+(thanks Stormi)
+
+--
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+ <B>Thorsten van Lil</B>
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+ <I>Sun Jul 3 15:44:11 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hey folks,
+
+our last meeting has been cancled, because lack of time and members.
+Therefore, the urgent topics will be discussed via mail. The first is the
+colourpalete.
+
+I did two proposals and Max also did one (which he will add via reply here).
+The first one, is mainly set up on trishs proposal:
+<A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/COa2txCCCh-">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/COa2txCCCh-</A>
+zciKJa67BKsWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+I only modified the accent colour a bit, to fit better.
+
+The second proposal is set up with my favorite colourpalete, also with a
+warmer accent colour:
+<A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/OoQrYkkJO4uMAN4owoVizsWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/OoQrYkkJO4uMAN4owoVizsWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink</A>
+
+So, we shuld wait for Maxs proposal too and than can discuss those three, what
+we like and dislike, etc. And in the end make or choose a final one.
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
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+ <B>Thorsten van Lil</B>
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+<PRE>Hey,
+
+the discussion also take place last week in the mailing list, but I'd like to
+do that in an extra thread.
+
+To summarize the current situation:
+The current window decoration (Ia Ora), looks old fashioned and is hard to
+maintain. It would also require a lot effort to port IaOra to gtk3 (needed for
+Gnome3). Therefore we need a new window decorations and there are the
+following solutions:
+1.) use the default decoration of each desktop environment:
+* Very easy, no extra work needed
+* all work is done upstream
+* no unique look for mageia
+* different look in kde and gnome
+
+2.) create a new decoration for mageia
+* Unique look for mageia
+* uniform look in all environments
+* heavy heavy load for the devs (kde, qt4, gtk2, gtk3)
+
+3.) Use other existing window decorations
+* easy, just a few work needed
+* the are decorations that exists for all common environments -&gt; uniform look
+* relative unique look for mageia
+* hard to say, what happens if the upstream developer drop the decoration
+
+From the dev-side of view, solution 1 is the best. But form the artwork-side,
+I'm not very happy with it. Our KDE would look like Kubuntu, but with a
+different startmenu button. Although a lot of people change the decoration
+either, it's making a special first impression if it looks different (and good,
+hopefully). Thus, I would like, if we can go with solution 3. But for that, we
+need more information.
+
+I need one of you, who will search the web for decorations that exist in kde,
+gnome (and qt). And list them somewhere in the wiki. After that, we can take a
+closer look, if this a practicable way, or if we better go with an other
+solution.
+
+One extra note: It already has been mentioned, that the oxygen window
+decoration (which is the default for KDE) exist also for GNOME2/3 and Qt.
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>What I have is nothing as pretty as those.
+<A HREF="http://imgur.com/UApQ7l&amp;VQ1XS?full">http://imgur.com/UApQ7l&amp;VQ1XS?full</A>
+It's the same color palette, but with different backgrounds. Humans are
+weird like that, that the same colors appear different depending on the the
+background.
+For all the blues I took the blues from Thorsten's proposal (the first one
+in his email), and the two warmer colors are the two which we had decided on
+last time, with (more or less) the same deviation as the blues.
+I also added their HEX values, in case people have screen resolution issues,
+and this way it's easier to reproduce.
+
+On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hey folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> our last meeting has been cancled, because lack of time and members.
+</I>&gt;<i> Therefore, the urgent topics will be discussed via mail. The first is the
+</I>&gt;<i> colourpalete.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did two proposals and Max also did one (which he will add via reply
+</I>&gt;<i> here).
+</I>&gt;<i> The first one, is mainly set up on trishs proposal:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/COa2txCCCh-">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/COa2txCCCh-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> zciKJa67BKsWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+</I>&gt;<i> I only modified the accent colour a bit, to fit better.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The second proposal is set up with my favorite colourpalete, also with a
+</I>&gt;<i> warmer accent colour:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/OoQrYkkJO4uMAN4owoVizsWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/OoQrYkkJO4uMAN4owoVizsWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, we shuld wait for Maxs proposal too and than can discuss those three,
+</I>&gt;<i> what
+</I>&gt;<i> we like and dislike, etc. And in the end make or choose a final one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=203">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=203</A>
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+On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hey,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the discussion also take place last week in the mailing list, but I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> to
+</I>&gt;<i> do that in an extra thread.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To summarize the current situation:
+</I>&gt;<i> The current window decoration (Ia Ora), looks old fashioned and is hard to
+</I>&gt;<i> maintain. It would also require a lot effort to port IaOra to gtk3 (needed
+</I>&gt;<i> for
+</I>&gt;<i> Gnome3). Therefore we need a new window decorations and there are the
+</I>&gt;<i> following solutions:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.) use the default decoration of each desktop environment:
+</I>&gt;<i> * Very easy, no extra work needed
+</I>&gt;<i> * all work is done upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> * no unique look for mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> * different look in kde and gnome
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.) create a new decoration for mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> * Unique look for mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> * uniform look in all environments
+</I>&gt;<i> * heavy heavy load for the devs (kde, qt4, gtk2, gtk3)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.) Use other existing window decorations
+</I>&gt;<i> * easy, just a few work needed
+</I>&gt;<i> * the are decorations that exists for all common environments -&gt; uniform
+</I>&gt;<i> look
+</I>&gt;<i> * relative unique look for mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> * hard to say, what happens if the upstream developer drop the decoration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;From the dev-side of view, solution 1 is the best. But form the
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork-side,
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not very happy with it. Our KDE would look like Kubuntu, but with a
+</I>&gt;<i> different startmenu button. Although a lot of people change the decoration
+</I>&gt;<i> either, it's making a special first impression if it looks different (and
+</I>&gt;<i> good,
+</I>&gt;<i> hopefully). Thus, I would like, if we can go with solution 3. But for that,
+</I>&gt;<i> we
+</I>&gt;<i> need more information.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I need one of you, who will search the web for decorations that exist in
+</I>&gt;<i> kde,
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome (and qt). And list them somewhere in the wiki. After that, we can
+</I>&gt;<i> take a
+</I>&gt;<i> closer look, if this a practicable way, or if we better go with an other
+</I>&gt;<i> solution.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One extra note: It already has been mentioned, that the oxygen window
+</I>&gt;<i> decoration (which is the default for KDE) exist also for GNOME2/3 and Qt.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
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+<PRE>Le 03/07/2011 17:00, Max Quarterpleen a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> What I have is nothing as pretty as those.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://imgur.com/UApQ7l&amp;VQ1XS?full">http://imgur.com/UApQ7l&amp;VQ1XS?full</A> &lt;<A HREF="http://imgur.com/UApQ7l&amp;VQ1XS?full">http://imgur.com/UApQ7l&amp;VQ1XS?full</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> It's the same color palette, but with different backgrounds. Humans
+</I>&gt;<i> are weird like that, that the same colors appear different depending
+</I>&gt;<i> on the the background.
+</I>&gt;<i> For all the blues I took the blues from Thorsten's proposal (the first
+</I>&gt;<i> one in his email), and the two warmer colors are the two which we had
+</I>&gt;<i> decided on last time, with (more or less) the same deviation as the blues.
+</I>&gt;<i> I also added their HEX values, in case people have screen resolution
+</I>&gt;<i> issues, and this way it's easier to reproduce.
+</I>
+As an information, a designer will join team in coming days. She will
+also make some proposals for sure
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hey folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> our last meeting has been cancled, because lack of time and members.
+</I>&gt;<i> Therefore, the urgent topics will be discussed via mail. The first
+</I>&gt;<i> is the
+</I>&gt;<i> colourpalete.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did two proposals and Max also did one (which he will add via
+</I>&gt;<i> reply here).
+</I>&gt;<i> The first one, is mainly set up on trishs proposal:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/COa2txCCCh-">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/COa2txCCCh-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> zciKJa67BKsWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+</I>&gt;<i> I only modified the accent colour a bit, to fit better.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The second proposal is set up with my favorite colourpalete, also
+</I>&gt;<i> with a
+</I>&gt;<i> warmer accent colour:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/OoQrYkkJO4uMAN4owoVizsWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/OoQrYkkJO4uMAN4owoVizsWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, we shuld wait for Maxs proposal too and than can discuss those
+</I>&gt;<i> three, what
+</I>&gt;<i> we like and dislike, etc. And in the end make or choose a final one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>Le 03/07/2011 17:02, Max Quarterpleen a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> This has also been discussed in the forum:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=203">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=203</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=203">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&amp;t=203</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hey,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the discussion also take place last week in the mailing list, but
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to
+</I>&gt;<i> do that in an extra thread.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To summarize the current situation:
+</I>&gt;<i> The current window decoration (Ia Ora), looks old fashioned and is
+</I>&gt;<i> hard to
+</I>&gt;<i> maintain. It would also require a lot effort to port IaOra to gtk3
+</I>&gt;<i> (needed for
+</I>&gt;<i> Gnome3). Therefore we need a new window decorations and there are the
+</I>&gt;<i> following solutions:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.) use the default decoration of each desktop environment:
+</I>&gt;<i> * Very easy, no extra work needed
+</I>&gt;<i> * all work is done upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> * no unique look for mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> * different look in kde and gnome
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.) create a new decoration for mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> * Unique look for mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> * uniform look in all environments
+</I>&gt;<i> * heavy heavy load for the devs (kde, qt4, gtk2, gtk3)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.) Use other existing window decorations
+</I>&gt;<i> * easy, just a few work needed
+</I>&gt;<i> * the are decorations that exists for all common environments -&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> uniform look
+</I>&gt;<i> * relative unique look for mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> * hard to say, what happens if the upstream developer drop the
+</I>&gt;<i> decoration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;From the dev-side of view, solution 1 is the best. But form the
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork-side,
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not very happy with it. Our KDE would look like Kubuntu, but
+</I>&gt;<i> with a
+</I>&gt;<i> different startmenu button. Although a lot of people change the
+</I>&gt;<i> decoration
+</I>&gt;<i> either, it's making a special first impression if it looks
+</I>&gt;<i> different (and good,
+</I>&gt;<i> hopefully). Thus, I would like, if we can go with solution 3. But
+</I>&gt;<i> for that, we
+</I>&gt;<i> need more information.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I need one of you, who will search the web for decorations that
+</I>&gt;<i> exist in kde,
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome (and qt). And list them somewhere in the wiki. After that,
+</I>&gt;<i> we can take a
+</I>&gt;<i> closer look, if this a practicable way, or if we better go with an
+</I>&gt;<i> other
+</I>&gt;<i> solution.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One extra note: It already has been mentioned, that the oxygen window
+</I>&gt;<i> decoration (which is the default for KDE) exist also for GNOME2/3
+</I>&gt;<i> and Qt
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Except some comments like &quot;I don't like it&quot; or &quot;it's old&quot;, some points
+we should keep in mind
+
+- ia_ora took ages to be integrated in both KDE and GNOME. Design part
+of the game is somewhat the smallest part of the iceberg :). Technical
+integration is another story.
+- having the same theme for both KDE and GNOME is not only a question of
+choosing an environment. More and more users are mixing GTK and Qt apps.
+Having something uniform was quite a strong point in Mandriva and it
+should be a mandatory point
+- as explained in first point, developping a theme is painfull. If we
+have a theme available for bot environment that is a good starting
+point. Developpers can always decide not to develop it at one time. But
+at least we have something ready to use.
+
+Cheers
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+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
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+ <B>Thorsten van Lil</B>
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+
+the last meeting has been cancelled, so we will have this week a new
+start with the same topics.
+
+* Window decoration
+* Colour palette
+* meeting cycles
+
+Wednesday, 6th of July at 17:00 o'clock UTC.
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+Please give me a short response, if you will attend to the meeting or not.
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+&gt;<i> Hey @all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the last meeting has been cancelled, so we will have this week a
+</I>&gt;<i> new start with the same topics.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Window decoration
+</I>&gt;<i> * Colour palette
+</I>&gt;<i> * meeting cycles
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wednesday, 6th of July at 17:00 o'clock UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please give me a short response, if you will attend to the meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> or not.
+</I>
+I'll be there...
+
+
+--
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+ma jul 4 19:04:36 CEST 2011
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+
+On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hey @all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the last meeting has been cancelled, so we will have this week a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; new start with the same topics.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * Window decoration
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * Colour palette
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; * meeting cycles
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Wednesday, 6th of July at 17:00 o'clock UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please give me a short response, if you will attend to the meeting
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll be there...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+</I>&gt;<i> 52.4161N,16.9303E
+</I>&gt;<i> ma jul 4 19:04:36 CEST 2011
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+I'd like to add something to the list, because it's kind of urgent:
+
+&gt;<i> * Window decoration
+</I>&gt;<i> * Colour palette
+</I>&gt;<i> * meeting cycles
+</I>
+* layouts for posters/flyers/kakemono.
+
+We can add colours when the palette is decided, but we need layouts
+fairly soon - lots of stuff happening over the summer.
+
+Cheers!
+
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+ <B>Dimitris Tsiamasiotis</B>
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+On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hey @all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the last meeting has been cancelled, so we will have this week a new start
+</I>&gt;<i> with the same topics.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Window decoration
+</I>&gt;<i> * Colour palette
+</I>&gt;<i> * meeting cycles
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wednesday, 6th of July at 17:00 o'clock UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please give me a short response, if you will attend to the meeting or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i> ______________________________**_________________
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+Samuel VERSCHELDE &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; changed:
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+--- Comment #2 from Samuel VERSCHELDE &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; 2011-07-16 23:50:46 CEST ---
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+As said after our last meetings, here is the announcement for release
+cycle, time support and development planning for Mageia 2
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+distrubition. I do not want to install every 18 months a new version of
+Mageia. Take an example at MicroSoft with their support for Windows XP till
+2014. If we want to be competive, we have to support for at least 5 years
+for the LTS-versions and 3 years for the more experimental versions. Please
+consider a longer support period. This will be more welcomed by companies
+and individuals.
+
+Yours sincerely,
+
+Zwikkle
+
+
+PS: have also an look at my selfmade alfabet called &quot;apekozzi&quot;
+<A HREF="http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg?PHPSESSID=00aa60d995f7dcfae88944390492d332">http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg?PHPSESSID=00aa60d995f7dcfae88944390492d332</A>
+
+2011/7/17 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As said after our last meetings, here is the announcement for release
+</I>&gt;<i> cycle, time support and development planning for Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/07/17/mageia-2-release-cycle-support-and-planning/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/07/17/mageia-2-release-cycle-support-and-planning/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>Le 17/07/2011 13:16, suikerstroop a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> As a long time linux user I dislike the short support period of linux
+</I>&gt;<i> distrubition. I do not want to install every 18 months a new version
+</I>&gt;<i> of Mageia. Take an example at MicroSoft with their support for Windows
+</I>&gt;<i> XP till 2014. If we want to be competive, we have to support for at
+</I>&gt;<i> least 5 years for the LTS-versions and 3 years for the more
+</I>&gt;<i> experimental versions. Please consider a longer support period. This
+</I>&gt;<i> will be more welcomed by companies and individuals.
+</I>
+Don't you think we do agree on this? Your ideas are great one. We would
+love to be able to support this. But what's the point of making such
+public proposals if we do not know we have enough resouces? As said in
+announcement, we will have a review before Mageia 2 release and see how
+it's going. At the moment it's just not possible
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yours sincerely,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Zwikkle
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: have also an look at my selfmade alfabet called &quot;apekozzi&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg?PHPSESSID=00aa60d995f7dcfae88944390492d332">http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg?PHPSESSID=00aa60d995f7dcfae88944390492d332</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011/7/17 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">ennael at mageia.org</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As said after our last meetings, here is the announcement for release
+</I>&gt;<i> cycle, time support and development planning for Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/07/17/mageia-2-release-cycle-support-and-planning/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2011/07/17/mageia-2-release-cycle-support-and-planning/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
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+ <B>Barry Jackson</B>
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+--- Comment #4 from Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt; 2011-07-17 16:59:39 CEST ---
+The above patch does not seem to have been applied ?
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+--- Comment #5 from John Balcaen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">balcaen.john at gmail.com</A>&gt; 2011-07-17 17:06:11 CEST ---
+Nop, i'll do it later today so it would be ok for mageia.
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+John Balcaen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">balcaen.john at gmail.com</A>&gt; changed:
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+ What |Removed |Added
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+ Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED
+ Resolution| |FIXED
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+--- Comment #6 from John Balcaen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">balcaen.john at gmail.com</A>&gt; 2011-07-18 04:59:03 CEST ---
+A new packaged named mageia-theme-kde-background should be available soon on
+your mirror.
+I'll add it later as a requires on Default &amp; netbook-kde4-config package.
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+Please have a look at the new blog-post:
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+We have to think about our plans and milestones for mageia 2.
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+Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; changed:
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+--- Comment #2 from Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; 2011-07-25 14:54:39 CEST ---
+This is also valid for other drivers with KMS enabled, like here Intel i915.
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>I ran across an interesting program today called Gpick.
+<A HREF="http://code.google.com/p/gpick/">http://code.google.com/p/gpick/</A>
+It seems to be very handy for creating color palettes.
+So, I took a couple of the pictures I had made for last week's meeting and
+created some real color palettes from them.
+The results are attached.
+Notice that there are 2 types of files there (aside from plaintext README
+and LICENSE files). The .gpl are color palettes that can be used in The Gimp
+and Inkscape. The .gpa files are native to Gpick. So you can open them right
+there and see how the stuff looks. (Detailed instructions in the README).
+I hope this helps.
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 01 juli 2011 11:21:02 schreef Anne nicolas:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Please do not add new proposals on that page as it's coming after
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; deadline. We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; collect more ideas here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> (thanks Stormi)
+</I>
+I started filling out some of the bug reports and provided some extra info.
+
+PS: I note that i didn't see the original email on mageia-dev ML; only on
+mageia-sysadm ML. must be something wrong with google...
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+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
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+<I>John Balcaen
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+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
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+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1332] Progress bar misaligned during graphical boot with KMS enabled
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
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+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
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+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting 20th July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
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+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Re] Release cycle, support and planning; please take longrer support period
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
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+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-artwork] New Palettes
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitris Tsiamasiotis
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel VERSCHELDE
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+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 technical specifications
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+<I>Maarten Vanraes
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+<LI><A HREF="000566.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia 2 technical specifications
+</A><A NAME="566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
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+</A><A NAME="567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
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+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
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+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Re] Release cycle, support and planning; please take longrer support period
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+<LI><A HREF="000567.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia 2 technical specifications
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+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 technical specifications
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+<I>Maarten Vanraes
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+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
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+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
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+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
+</A><A NAME="571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitris Tsiamasiotis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel VERSCHELDE
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-artwork] Release cycle, support and planning
+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Re] Release cycle, support and planning; please take longrer support period
+</A><A NAME="581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Re] Release cycle, support and planning; please take longrer support period
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
+</A><A NAME="584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting 20th July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1332] Progress bar misaligned during graphical boot with KMS enabled
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-artwork] New Palettes
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
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+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
+</A><A NAME="584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1332] Progress bar misaligned during graphical boot with KMS enabled
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel VERSCHELDE
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 technical specifications
+</A><A NAME="749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Re] Release cycle, support and planning; please take longrer support period
+</A><A NAME="581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Re] Release cycle, support and planning; please take longrer support period
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000566.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia 2 technical specifications
+</A><A NAME="566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000567.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia 2 technical specifications
+</A><A NAME="567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting 20th July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitris Tsiamasiotis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-artwork] New Palettes
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-artwork] Release cycle, support and planning
+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
+</A><A NAME="571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jul 25 14:23:07 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Nov 11 22:21:46 CET 2011</i>
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+ <h1>July 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Jul 1 11:16:32 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jul 25 14:23:07 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 24<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01309511792- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000566.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia 2 technical specifications
+</A><A NAME="566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01309511792-01309512062- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000567.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia 2 technical specifications
+</A><A NAME="567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01309511792-01309512062-01309620744- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000749.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 technical specifications
+</A><A NAME="749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01309700651- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000568.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01309700651-01309705202- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000570.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01309700651-01309705202-01309719789- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000572.html">[Mageia-artwork] Colorpalete
+</A><A NAME="572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01309702368- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000569.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
+</A><A NAME="569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01309702368-01309705356- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000571.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
+</A><A NAME="571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01309702368-01309705356-01309720250- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000573.html">[Mageia-artwork] Window decoration
+</A><A NAME="573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01309783608- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000574.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01309783608-01309799095- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000575.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01309783608-01309799095-01309801935- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000576.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01309783608-01309808540- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000577.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01309783608-01309962037- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000578.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting on 6th of July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitris Tsiamasiotis
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01310845846- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000579.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 41] [WISH] Make the cauldron animated &amp; let it progressively start to boil, cook &amp; then just ooooze when you're finished
+</A><A NAME="579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel VERSCHELDE
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01310885953- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000580.html">[Mageia-artwork] Release cycle, support and planning
+</A><A NAME="580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01310901412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000581.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Re] Release cycle, support and planning; please take longrer support period
+</A><A NAME="581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>suikerstroop
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01310901412-01310902317- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000582.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Re] Release cycle, support and planning; please take longrer support period
+</A><A NAME="582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01310914778- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000583.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
+</A><A NAME="583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01310915170- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000584.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
+</A><A NAME="584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01310950743- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000585.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1309] default.jpg not included in wallpaper selector in KDE
+</A><A NAME="585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01310998115- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000586.html">[Mageia-artwork] Meeting 20th July, 2011
+</A><A NAME="586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01311591278- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000587.html">[Mageia-artwork] [Bug 1332] Progress bar misaligned during graphical boot with KMS enabled
+</A><A NAME="587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01311596587- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000588.html">[Mageia-artwork] New Palettes
+</A><A NAME="588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Max Quarterpleen
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jul 25 14:23:07 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Fri Nov 11 22:21:46 CET 2011</i>
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