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<B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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<PRE>2012/4/11 Olav Vitters <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">olav at vitters.nl</A>>:
><i> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 01:47:51PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
</I>>><i> 2012/4/11 Olav Vitters <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">olav at vitters.nl</A>>:
</I>>><i> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 06:17:32AM -0400, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
</I>>><i> >> On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 05:35 my mailbox was graced by a message from Olav
</I>>><i> >> Vitters who wrote:
</I>>><i> >> >  I don't see how excluding documentation makes things more practical.
</I>>><i> >>
</I>>><i> >> As in "more practical to have diskspace available for data, than have it used
</I>>><i> >> up by documentation I will not need" ?
</I>>><i> >
</I>>><i> > You're speaking about yourself. I am speaking in general. How is it more
</I>>><i> > practical that the documentation is not available? You raise disk space.
</I>>><i> > I see that as a benefit if you have a small amount of disk space. But I
</I>>><i> > don't see how that makes not including documentation practical. Might be
</I>>><i> > practical to have the installer automatically detect a small amount of
</I>>><i> > disk space and exclude documentation. But in general not having any
</I>>><i> > documentation available is not practical at all; you have to rely on an
</I>>><i> > internet connection, hope that the documentation is available online,
</I>>><i> > furthermore you have to search for it.
</I>>><i> >
</I>>><i> > Not installing documentation,  might be some reasons for it, but
</I>>><i> > 'practical': I don't see it.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> The question whether having documentation ready or not is based on
</I>>><i> individual preferences, there is no general consensus about that as
</I>>><i> you pretend when you claim to "speak in general". At least this is
</I>><i>
</I>><i> That is not what I was after.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I said that minimizing disk space is a preference. A way to achieve that
</I>><i> is to exclude documentation. Minimizing disk space might be practical in
</I>><i> some cases. But that doesn't mean that if by default / in general / for
</I>><i> everyone the documentation is excluded, that this exclusion is somehow
</I>><i> logical. Or: A -> B doesn't mean B -> A.
</I>
Ok, this is more clear than just saying that you speak "in general" as
opposite to Ron's opinion.
>><i> what this thread told us. In my understanding the point of this whole
</I>>><i> discussion is to find a way to cater to both sides, (A) having
</I>>><i> documentation ready if you want it but also (B) being able to *easily*
</I>>><i> avoid it if you don't want it. At the moment this issue is not solved
</I>>><i> for (A) AND (B), only for (A).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Seems you're just repeating what I suggested: if there is a need, check
</I>><i> if it can be possible.
</I>
Hmm, Obviously we are talking about different things. I thought I
clearly showed that there is a need and that the topic of thei thread
is to find a solution.
><i> At the moment the only concern seems to be disk space. If that is the
</I>><i> only reason, just do it automatically and/or have a special disk space
</I>><i> concious section. Fully analysing why to exclude would allow that will
</I>><i> ensure it is there when expected, instead of just being an option you
</I>><i> have to search for.
</I>
No, disk space is not the only reason but the most prominent. For the
rest of this paragraph I have no clue what you are talking about.
Either it's the language barrier or maybe my lack of tech
understanding.
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wobo
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