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   <H1>[Mageia-discuss] FSF anf UEFI SecureBoot</H1>
    <B>P. Christeas</B> 
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<PRE>On Sunday 30 December 2012, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
&gt;<i> Hi all
</I>&gt;<i> It looks like the FSF is launching a campaign to stop the UEFI SecureBoot
</I>&gt;<i> from being adopted on a large scale basis.
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Suggestion (in case it's not already considered) :

We could also utilize the /consumer protection/ channels and demand that such 
hardware comes with a big _sticker_ claiming &quot;this device cannot support any 
3rd party software/operating system&quot;.

It is important to emphasize on a /negative/ wording. One that would put off 
the consumer from buying the locked-down device. Of course, in legal terms, we 
must be very precise in what we ask for, because companies will try to change 
the sticker to some positive message: &quot;this device is /protected/ against bad 
software&quot; or so..

If vendors don't apply the sticker, then, under current law (in most European 
and US states), we have the right to *return* the device, claiming it does not 
fulfil the purpose we have bought it for. A return will hurt the vendors/ 
manufacturers most, because of the extra cost of return shipment.
Again, we want the FSFs backing to help us secure our refund. For example, 
claiming that &quot;a computer is supposed to be a /generic/ device, on which the 
owner/user is able to install vendor-agnostic software&quot; could be a legal way 
(with a widely-known precedent) for the consumer to react. (otoh, just going 
back to the shop saying &quot;I don't want this crap&quot; may not be allowed in some 
markets)

I hope, such a consumer reaction would make manufacturers think twice before 
taking our rights away.

Happy new Year!


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