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<H1>[Mageia-discuss] Sun java updates must now be downloaded and installed manually.</H1>
<B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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<I>Wed Nov 23 19:22:28 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>Op woensdag 23 november 2011 10:09:39 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
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><i> > Where do we want to draw the line, as we did the same for skype?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > We propagate the repositories as one main advantage of Linux. Everything
</I>><i> > is in one trusted source. No more seeking and downloading somewhere in
</I>><i> > the web from several sites. Automated updates. How should the uninformed
</I>><i> > and lazy user understand, that we didn't provide at least a "get-java"
</I>><i> > package?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Yes, you are right: where do we want to draw the line? 2 points:
</I>><i> - Oliver talked about Oracle moving away from Open Source users.
</I>><i> - Oracle java (as Adobe Reader) is not essential for the majority of
</I>><i> users like flashplayer and proprietary drivers and firmware.
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</I>><i> Maybe these points provide the "line to draw" - otherwise we can move
</I>><i> on to all kinds of closed source games and whatever. Users always
</I>><i> "want", it is in their genes.
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My personal opinion is that if a contributor is willing and able to legally
provide/distribute it, whatever it's status, he's free to do so. who are we to
say to that contributor that his work is in vain?
i mean, what is essential to whom??? it's a very subjective pov, so i say,
don't draw a unneeded line.
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