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    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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    <I>Mon Mar  7 20:38:03 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>Op maandag 07 maart 2011 12:34:57 schreef Michael Scherer:
&gt;<i>  On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 12:14:49 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/3/7 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; This bring the question of account management, ie what should
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; we do with a account that is explicitely dropped ?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Ie :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - disable fully
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - leave it as it is now and :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;  - disable later
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;  - leave forever usable
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - disable partially ( ie remove from sensitives groups ( and so
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; define
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; what group is sensitive ))
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So what about last proposal ( remove from sensitive group ) and
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; disable
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; account
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; in 6 months / 1 year  ?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +1
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We've seen it quite often that people re-discover old interests,
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hobbies, ex-wives, etc. So, a &quot;sleep time&quot; of 1 year is a good
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; solution.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; next thing is to define which are &quot;sensitive groups / access
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; permissions&quot;.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i>  Depend on the havoc that could be done by someone stealing a unused
</I>&gt;<i>  account.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i>  Someone posting on the forum under a false name will generate lots of
</I>&gt;<i>  drama,
</I>&gt;<i>  but nothing critical. The same goes for bugzilla, or any ml.
</I>&gt;<i>  Now, someone moderating a forum and wrecking havoc would be
</I>&gt;<i>  more problematic. The same goes for svn/git/packages/translation/etc.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i>  Maybe it is simple to remove membership from all group, except those
</I>&gt;<i>  seen as
</I>&gt;<i>  unsensitive ? ( ie, everything except default users group ).
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i>  We also need to see when do we remove such access. IE, if someone after
</I>&gt;<i>  X months
</I>&gt;<i>  decide to find interest into doing stuff that requires Y privileges,
</I>&gt;<i>  what should happen ?
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i>  - let him do it without asking ( keep Y privileges )
</I>&gt;<i>  - need to ask to have his privileges back
</I>&gt;<i>  - need to redo the whole system from start ?
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i>  I guess that depending on X and Y, of course, and so we need to have
</I>&gt;<i>  first a list
</I>&gt;<i>  of Y.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i>  Let's try with that :
</I>&gt;<i>  - commit to developper svn
</I>&gt;<i>  - commit to packages svn
</I>&gt;<i>  - submit packages
</I>&gt;<i>  - commit to web svn
</I>&gt;<i>  - modifiy ldap
</I>&gt;<i>  - do sysadmin stuff ( log everywhere, touch to config )
</I>&gt;<i>  - planet subscription
</I>&gt;<i>  ( insert bugzilla stuff )
</I>&gt;<i>  ( insert blog privs )
</I>&gt;<i>  ( insert i18n stuff )
</I>&gt;<i>  ( insert forums stuff )
</I>&gt;<i>  ( isert missing stuff )
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i>  I assume that we can all agree that a leader/deputy/board member
</I>&gt;<i>  resiging will have
</I>&gt;<i>  board/leader/deputy access removed.
</I>
[...]

perhaps the user can just opt-out in identity, which could result in:
 - removal of userPassword attribute, effectively disabling login
 - and setting a disabled flag in LDAP, which could be taking into account in 
each application.
 - removal of membership in groups is also an idea. but we'd have to find out 
if there is no &quot;accountability from the past&quot; issue.

this would have the benefit of rejoining at a later time AND the accountability 
from the past of stuff doesn't disappear.

eg: suppose appl X logs what user Y does, and does so with the LDAP reference.

if the ldap entry really is deleted, stuff might go wrong.

just an idea.
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