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    <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> 
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<PRE>On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:35:12 am Andr&#233; Machado wrote:
&gt;<i> We all know that, nowadays, Ubuntu is the distribution most widely used and
</I>&gt;<i> known worldwide. Many users are afraid to try other distros because they
</I>&gt;<i> are accustomed to Ubuntu and many remasters are Ubuntu or Debian based.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> We also know that RPM-based distros are not anything DEB-based distros and
</I>&gt;<i> often are more stable and faster. URPMI is incomparably superior to
</I>&gt;<i> apt-get.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> The four major community-driven RPM-based distros nowadays are: Mageia,
</I>&gt;<i> OpenSuse, Fedora and PCLinuxOS.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> All these distros can work together to promote the use of RPM distros and
</I>&gt;<i> help in their own developments.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Even though the development team mageia is busy with the roadmap of
</I>&gt;<i> development, I would propose the creation of...
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i>           T H E [ R E D ] A L L I A N C E
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> ... which would be a global network where developers and users of these
</I>&gt;<i> distributions could exchange knowledge and information and share resources
</I>&gt;<i> to assist in developing mutual their distros.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Today we know that a RPM developed for OpenSuse may not work properly in
</I>&gt;<i> Fedora. With the Red Alliance, we could create a common development basis,
</I>&gt;<i> through which could enhance the compatibility and interoperability of
</I>&gt;<i> programs developed for these distros with the establishment of common
</I>&gt;<i> guidelines and further increase market share and convince users that they
</I>&gt;<i> will feel at home.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> The goal is not to merge all the distros, but work together. The idea
</I>&gt;<i> should be further developed, but this seems an appropriate way.
</I>&gt;<i> 
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Standardisation is a good thing.  I have an app with a spec file for Suse.  I 
gave up trying to modify it for Mandriva.  Quite apart from standardisation 
however, there are packages in one distro with a different name from another.  
I would like to see a switch added to the rpm command to tell it: &quot;This 
package of mine fits that dependency you asked for.&quot;

A tarball I tried to compile recently (brand new on Freshmeat) specified 
dependencies older than what I had installed.  What I had didn't match.  That 
may be sloppy coding.  An &quot;or newer&quot; spec would have fixed it.

Who will bell the cat?  I am afraid that if you want this Alliance, you will 
need to be its driving force.  And you will need to define much more precisely 
what your aims are.

Doug.
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