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    <B>Michael scherer</B> 
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    <I>Sun Dec 19 12:52:57 CET 2010</I>
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<PRE>On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:41:02AM +0100, lebarhon wrote:
&gt;<i> Le 19/12/2010 02:29, Michael scherer a &#233;crit :
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&gt;<i> &gt;And we need to be seen as different, because we need to overcome Mandriva bad
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;reputation ( like this update, for example, or the general bad mood due
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;to various budget cut etc ). The question is not if the reputation is deserved
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;or not ( because I think it is not, at least not for everything ). But the
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;fact is it exist, and that I think we want to avoid it.
</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately, everyone can still see the same names/nicknames on
</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva ML and Mageia ML, and everywhere, long after Mageia birth .
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</I>&gt;<i> So it seems that your wishes don't fit with reality.
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Well, you see the same nickname on plf and mandriva list, yet most people see that 
they are 2 different group, and act accordingly. So it can be done, and the first 
step is to be aware of the problem, and to understand it. Maybe 
this requires to have a strong different brand, maybe others ideas an be used for that.

Obviously, it is not easy as we will have a natural tendency to do the contrary, and I 
do not blame that, nor do I want to do it in the future. I know
we all act in good faith, I just took the occasion of this thread to expose the idea
and what I humbly think we should do. People are free to listen or not. 

-- 
Michael Scherer
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