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<H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva is switching to rpm5, and other news</H1>
<B>andre999</B>
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<I>Fri Dec 3 10:21:38 CET 2010</I>
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<PRE>Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
><i>
</I>><i> Op donderdag 02 december 2010 23:09:14 schreef Morgan Leijström:
</I>>><i> ADDING to what i just wrote:
</I>>>><i> A week or so old news but I saw it now...
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> <<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2011.0_specs_proposal#Swith_to_rpm5">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2011.0_specs_proposal#Swith_to_rpm5</A>>
</I>>>><i> <<A HREF="http://ostatic.com/blog/whats-coming-in-mandriva-2011">http://ostatic.com/blog/whats-coming-in-mandriva-2011</A>>
</I>>>><i> <<A HREF="http://proyvind.net/wordpress/?p=71">http://proyvind.net/wordpress/?p=71</A>>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Citing proyvind from last link:
</I>>>><i> "...I think we will end up being able to be the awesome alternative in
</I>>>><i> the forked world, hoping for interest of other distros, actively
</I>>>><i> inviting their participation and offering to help merge,..."
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> - i forgot to paste the best part:
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> "I’m curious about what stance Mageia will take on this though, I’m
</I>>><i> certainly hoping they will adopt our work and allow for us to help them
</I>>><i> and contribute back and forth, if not I fear they’ll miss out on several
</I>>><i> changes in just perl-URPM done recently during rpm5 rewrite, and even more
</I>>><i> so those planned when rpm5 upgrade situtation settles.."
</I>>><i>
</I>>>><i> There are also other goodies in the middle link i hope we can coopreate
</I>>>><i> with them on.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> well, i'm not adverse to cooperation, but RPM5 is in my opinion FAR too
</I>><i> unstable to be used for use on our first release.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I would say, let mandriva find the bugs first and let it give rpm5 a testrun
</I>><i> with their users; by the time we hit our second release, we will have a for
</I>><i> sure stable version of it.
</I>><i>
</I>I've been following RPM5 (and the associated urpm4) on cooker for a
while now ...
All 3 stories come from the person integrating rpm5 into Mandriva - he
was recently hired to do just that, with full support of management.
To me it looks like rpm5 itself won't be the big problem - rather
changing the urpmi tools and adapting the build system to work with it.
Not sure which way Mageia should go at first, but the newer versions of
their tools will be based on rpm5.
It was interesting how cooker wasn't warned of the changes - suddenly
many developers were left unable to do any anything, until Per fixed the
bugs he created. And then they learned about the planned switch.
A perfect example of how NOT to do things :)
It is good that Per is open to cooperation - his experiences will be a
big asset when we do follow suit - which I expect we will, sooner or later.
Maarten, have you taken a close look at it ?
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