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<H1>[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions</H1>
<B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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<I>Sun Oct 24 18:05:03 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>On 24 October 2010 17:43, Dale Huckeby <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">spock at evansville.net</A>> wrote:
><i> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010, Michael Scherer wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> But I think that if people knew that there is collaboration between
</I>>><i> employee and non-employee, they would have feel more welcome. And from
</I>>><i> what I read, you didn't know, so you were cautious, which seemed
</I>>><i> natural. That's our fault, and that's something we tried to fix with
</I>>><i> assembly ( without much sucess on the first try ), something I tried to
</I>>><i> fix by being present at every possible free software fair ( without much
</I>>><i> success too )
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I know and suspect many others know that Mandriva is created/maintained
</I>><i> by employees plus volunteers. Not knowing that isn't what makes potential
</I>><i> volunteers hesitate (in my opinion). It's not a matter of feeling
</I>><i> UNwelcome. It's an ABSENSE of the existing team going out of their way
</I>><i> to invite in potential contributors, holding their hand, showing them
</I>><i> where to go, who to talk to, what process to follow, etc.
</I>
That's exactly what happened to me, how I became a packager, so maybe
it's not all people on the inside not reaching out.
> As you imply
><i> above, it's lack of effective communication. Perhaps it's hard for
</I>><i> people on the "inside" to realize how lost potential contributors on the
</I>><i> "outside" feel unless there's a concerted effort to include them in and
</I>><i> guide them through the process. Maybe there should be a person dedicated
</I>><i> to bringing in and guiding new contributors, someone with really good
</I>><i> communication skills.
</I>
Ideally it's a two way process, a user wanna contribute and a mentor
doesn't mind to mentor/tutor him.
It was Jerome Quelin who started the "So, you wanna be a packager?"
thread on the cooker ML, that's what encouraged me, and other new
contributors, to come forward. So yeah, such "campaigns" are needed.
><i> Also, is there a list anywhere of packages that
</I>><i> need a maintainer, so new contributors would have a better idea of where
</I>><i> help is needed?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Dale Huckeby
</I>><i>
</I>
There is: <A HREF="http://maintainers.mandriva.com/listpkgs.php?owner=1">http://maintainers.mandriva.com/listpkgs.php?owner=1</A>
and of course, there'll be a packages/maintainers database in Mageia too.
(Note that not every package in that list is current, i.e. it could be
a dead package (upstream stopped developing it.. etc); also there're
packages that have nomaintainer but get updated regularly).
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Ahmad Samir
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