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   <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia governance model draft</H1>
    <B>Ahmad Samir</B> 
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    <I>Tue Oct  5 18:10:23 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>On 5 October 2010 17:48, Tux99 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
&gt;<i> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Teams are made of at least two sub-groups (from a credentials point of view):
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* &quot;Apprentices&quot; (people being mentored into the team - someone
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> suggested &quot;petit scarab&#233;e&quot; as a label but...)
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* and &quot;Masters&quot;.
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</I>&gt;<i> [...]
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</I>&gt;<i> Romain, that sound like a very rigid regimented structure that I fear
</I>&gt;<i> will cause &quot;i'm better than you&quot; kind of feelings, etc.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> I don't see the point in strictly classifying people in either masters
</I>&gt;<i> or slaves (sorry, freudian slip, i meant apprentices) because skill
</I>&gt;<i> levels are a lot more varied and fluid than just two classes.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Of course there will be mentors and mentored but there is no need to
</I>&gt;<i> create a rigid two class structure with priviledges for the master
</I>&gt;<i> class.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> This sounds very much against the spirit of a collaborative community to
</I>&gt;<i> me.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Please also read my other related post:
</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=msg&amp;th=66&amp;goto=596#msg_596">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=msg&amp;th=66&amp;goto=596#msg_596</A>
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</I>&gt;<i> I hope this dual-class system is not set in stone already.
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It's not about skill, it's about experience, any packager who's going
to gain commit/submit privileges to the official repos needs to be
clued in on how that system works, what packaging rules to follow,
what's to avoid... etc; some how like the mailing lists etiquette
users, who were posting to mailing lists for the very first time,
needed to learn. The difference here is submitting a package in the
repos means many users may use it, so stricter rules apply here.

And the apprenticeship won't take a year, probably about 1 month (2 at
the very most), depending on each mentors' time. Collaborating means
new comers should be taught on how that they collaborating in should
work :)

FWIW, most of the packagers who maintained packages in Mandriva went
through the same teaching/apprenticeship process.

&#8220;Reminds me of Star Wars, 'Apprentice' does&#8221; :)

-- 
Ahmad Samir
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