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<H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]</H1>
<B>Jostein Hauge</B>
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<I>Tue Sep 21 20:46:12 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>Tysdag 21. september 2010 19.30.31 skreiv nicolas vigier:
><i> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
</I>><i> > > I still think that we must do it. In such a foundation, Mandriva (the
</I>><i> > > company) would be a voice among others.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Well...
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > >From my point of view (which I may share or not with many people from
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > the pre-board team who can confirm/contradict me here):
</I>><i> > 1. I don't trust Mandriva existing and coming management, neither
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > investors. Years spent over there as an employee, seeing things from
</I>><i> > the inside taught me that this company is, sadly, structurally broken,
</I>><i> > from the very top (investors) down to management and its practices -
</I>><i> > and for quite some time. Fixing it is an option, although very costly
</I>><i> > and requiring exceptionnal skills and commitment from management; I
</I>><i> > don't see this over there at this time.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > 2. Mandriva plans are non-existent at this time to me (yesterday's
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > blog post is empty to me).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I completly agree with this.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I don't want to have anything to do with current Mandriva management
</I>><i> anymore, I've lost any trust in them.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Nicolas
</I>
Please don't hold the Mandriva community hostage because of personal bad
feelings you might have about the Mandriva company.
If Laprévote invites to collaboration to make a foundation, then this should
be looked into regardless of your personal feelings. I think most of us would
love a solution like Fedora-Redhat.
The name Mageia and the foundation might be kept. But what good does it make
to have a new Cooker, new build system or bugzilla? If collaboration between
Mandriva and Mageia is possible, then please collaborate.
When someone reach out a hand, don't turn your back on it. Instead you could
indicate what you think would be needed in order to make collaboration
possible. Just saying 'no I wont collaborate at all' makes this look more like
a vendetta than a constructive initiative.
Maybe this was a bit too harsh, but I guess you get the point :)
- Jostein Hauge (jess)
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