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Hi,<br><br>I want to join the team, actually I already made contact by IRC channel. But I'm still looking for a mentor.<br>I've never had experience as a packager just had in a little free software projects. <br>My mageia identity is: mbenattoa. If somebody wants help me on mentoring process I'll be very glad!<br>
<br>Thanks.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:00 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mageia-dev-request@mageia.org">mageia-dev-request@mageia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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1. Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release<br>
perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2 (D.Morgan)<br>
2. Re: Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing<br>
(Johnny A. Solbu)<br>
3. Re: Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing (andre999)<br>
4. mentors + apprentices (andre999)<br>
5. i18n corrections in drak tools (Oliver Burger)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 01:40:07 +0100<br>
From: "D.Morgan" <<a href="mailto:dmorganec@gmail.com">dmorganec@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Mageia development mailing-list <<a href="mailto:mageia-dev@mageia.org">mageia-dev@mageia.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release<br>
perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2<br>
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On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Thierry Vignaud<br>
<<a href="mailto:thierry.vignaud@gmail.com">thierry.vignaud@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On 27 October 2011 17:11, Mageia Team <<a href="mailto:buildsystem-daemon@mageia.org">buildsystem-daemon@mageia.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> takashi <takashi> 0.714.0-1.mga2:<br>
>> + Revision: 158214<br>
>> - update to 0.714<br>
><br>
> A requested package cannot be installed:<br>
> perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2.noarch (due to unsatisfied<br>
> perl(SOAP::Transport::FTP)[>= 0.712.0])<br>
> Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)<br>
><br>
<br>
still broken.<br>
<br>
The main issue is that i don't see perl(SOAP::Transport::FTP)[>=<br>
0.712.0]) see : <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/SOAP-Transport-FTP/" target="_blank">http://search.cpan.org/dist/SOAP-Transport-FTP/</a><br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 03:49:02 +0100<br>
From: "Johnny A. Solbu" <<a href="mailto:cooker@solbu.net">cooker@solbu.net</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:mageia-dev@mageia.org">mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in<br>
updates_testing<br>
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On Wednesday 02 November 2011 01:05, andre999 wrote:<br>
> No offense intended<br>
<br>
None detected. ;-)=<br>
<br>
> but you don't see a slight advantage of not having<br>
> to mount a separate partition, and of sharing the space available on the<br>
> otherwise 2 separate partitions, particularly if the disk space is<br>
> somewhat limited ?<br>
<br>
If the diskspace is limited, there often is no available space to host a separate /usr.<br>
The old drive in my gateway was a 4G drive. There was One partition. ;-)=<br>
I do see the need to have all in one partition in many cases.<br>
<br>
But there is a diffenrece in having a need and require it. :-)=<br>
<br>
> Since you have read the reference, you didn't notice that the option of<br>
> separate partitions is _not_ precluded ?<br>
<br>
Some of the answers I got here suggested otherwize. if /usr needs to be mounted in order for the system to boot normally. Then have systemd mount it.<br>
I do see that there might be some problems involved in solving it.<br>
<br>
> However if one has / and /usr on the same partition, combining /bin,<br>
> /sbin, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin would certainly be a lot simpler than it<br>
> is now.<br>
<br>
Yes. I see that, and I see that it can be agood idea to merge /*bin with /usr/*bin<br>
<br>
> I never could understand why the complication of separate /bin and /sbin,<br>
<br>
I still feel that the daemon's executeable's belongs in sbin rather than bin.<br>
<br>
> and never appreciated the gymnastics of different commands with<br>
> the same name to handle root/non-root permissions for certain commands.<br>
<br>
I haven't noticed that. do you have an example?<br>
<br>
> To me, avoiding unnecessary complication by design is a big plus.<br>
<br>
Agreed. But don't throw the baby out with the water. ;-)=<br>
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--<br>
Johnny A. Solbu<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:47:21 -0400<br>
From: andre999 <<a href="mailto:andre999mga@laposte.net">andre999mga@laposte.net</a>><br>
To: Mageia development mailing-list <<a href="mailto:mageia-dev@mageia.org">mageia-dev@mageia.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in<br>
updates_testing<br>
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Johnny A. Solbu a ?crit :<br>
> On Wednesday 02 November 2011 01:05, andre999 wrote:<br>
><br>
[...]<br>
>> Since you have read the reference, you didn't notice that the option of<br>
>> separate partitions is _not_ precluded ?<br>
>><br>
> Some of the answers I got here suggested otherwize. if /usr needs to be mounted in order for the system to boot normally. Then have systemd mount it.<br>
> I do see that there might be some problems involved in solving it.<br>
><br>
<br>
I think it is better to mount any separate /usr as early in the boot<br>
process as possible.<br>
<br>
[...]<br>
>> and never appreciated the gymnastics of different commands with<br>
>> the same name to handle root/non-root permissions for certain commands.<br>
>><br>
> I haven't noticed that. do you have an example?<br>
><br>
<br>
See the attached file of duplications of names on my computer.<br>
There are 76 duplications in the 4 directories.<br>
Those ending in @ are symbolic links. Such duplications will disappear<br>
with the merging.<br>
The others are mostly (if not all) scripts which link to a routine which<br>
asks for the root password for certain commands, according to enabled<br>
permissions. If the permissions are enabled and the password correctly<br>
entered, the user is rerouted to the initial command. A less obscure<br>
way of dealing with it would be better.<br>
(I forget the details, but someone like tv or misc would know.)<br>
<br>
>> To me, avoiding unnecessary complication by design is a big plus.<br>
>><br>
> Agreed. But don't throw the baby out with the water. ;-)=<br>
><br>
<br>
If just changing initramfs to load any separate /usr partition will fix<br>
it, I don't see that we are losing anything.<br>
Although if someone like tmb can initially misunderstand the impact, I<br>
guess anyone can. (It took me a while.)<br>
<br>
Maybe it will be more trouble to make such an initramfs, but once it is<br>
made, it should work nicely. Without a special reason to have a<br>
separate /usr, I would say that it is better to avoid it.<br>
I see that ensuring that everything necessary to fully boot being<br>
guaranteed to be available very early in the boot process is a big plus.<br>
If /home isn't available, one can always login to root. As well,<br>
keeping /home on a separate partition has advantages for ensuring the<br>
persistance of personal data and configuration in the event of<br>
reformatting /.<br>
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Andr?<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 03:54:38 -0400<br>
From: andre999 <<a href="mailto:andre999mga@laposte.net">andre999mga@laposte.net</a>><br>
To: Mageia development mailing-list <<a href="mailto:mageia-dev@mageia.org">mageia-dev@mageia.org</a>><br>
Subject: [Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices<br>
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Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
We have a new packager, takashi, who has successfully mentored with jquelin.<br>
<br>
We now have 2 apprentice candidates with .rpm packaging experience, waiting for<br>
a mentor.<br>
<br>
mcb30 (Michael Brown), who I introduced last week,<br>
is a longtime Mandrake/Mandriva and now Mageia user who has maintained several<br>
private RPM repos, and while waiting for a mentor has been making spec files<br>
for some python applications.<br>
<br>
We also have<br>
neocrust (Alexander Scherbakov),<br>
who has experience maintaining packages for openSuse and Lunar Linux, as well<br>
as translating to Russion, and doing documentation with the Gentoo Russion team.<br>
<br>
You can find more details at:<br>
<a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates</a><br>
<br>
Mentors, let me know who you take on, and I'll update the tables for you.<br>
<br>
Thanks :-)<br>
<br>
----<br>
<br>
We now have 49 active packagers (maintaining at least one package), with<br>
several who have yet to take a package.<br>
We currently have about 40 apprentices.<br>
Over 75% of packages have a maintainer.<br>
<br>
----<br>
<br>
Anyone else looking for a mentor, let me know so I can add your name as an<br>
apprentice candidate -- or you can do it yourself.<br>
<a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates</a><br>
<br>
<br>
See also the section just above, on becoming a Mageia packager :<br>
<a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#becoming_a_mageia_packager" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#becoming_a_mageia_packager</a><br>
<br>
To find a mentor, you can also post to this list, or on IRC at freenode<br>
#mageia-mentoring.<br>
<br>
Regards :-)<br>
<br>
--<br>
Andr?<br>
(Packager mentoring program coordinator)<br>
<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:45:10 +0100<br>
From: Oliver Burger <<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:mageia-dev@mageia.org">mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br>
Subject: [Mageia-dev] i18n corrections in drak tools<br>
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Hi there,<br>
<br>
I'd like to get all corrections made by i18n teams since the Mga1 release into<br>
the distribution. Imho that is important because not all teams managed to<br>
finish their translation work for the Mga1 freeze, and we were told at that<br>
time, that we would be able to get our work into Mga1 via an update later on<br>
and thus I told the teams to set a priority on the translation of the<br>
installer po files, which couldn't be updated later.<br>
<br>
<br>
As I mentioned in <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1784" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1784</a> I would propose<br>
a "i18n bug hunting day". We could do a blog post calling people to actively<br>
look for translation errors and file bug reports about them. I18n teams could<br>
then fix as many of those as possible and commit the corrections to the "1"<br>
branch of the drak tools svn (and also to cauldron if they are still present<br>
there).<br>
<br>
What do you think?<br>
Let's say "i18n bug hunting day" somewhen in the middle of next week and an<br>
update of the drak tools for Mga1 arround december 1st?<br>
<br>
Oliver<br>
<br>
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