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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl</H1>
    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Pascal Terjan at 08/02/13 10:33 did gyre and gimble:
&gt;<i> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 07/02/13 18:40 did gyre and gimble:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 7 februari 2013 13:34:06 schreef Colin Guthrie:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 07/02/13 11:40 did gyre and gimble:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> what about the tty12 bug? can this be fixed with journald? it seems to be
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a feature that people don't want to lose?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Not sure. I'll find out. It should be trivial really... i.e. all it
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> really needs is a journalctl -f command run on tty12. You could craft an
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> agetty command that worked like that easily enough, although there may
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be something more elegant that is more efficient and cleaner.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> since the tty12 &quot;feature&quot; is present now, it would be nice if it could still
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be there and started as soon as possible, just like before.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just to try it, can you set:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> TTYPath=/dev/tty12
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ForwardToConsole=yes
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in /etc/systemd/journald.conf
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not 100% sure whether it really should be available by default tho'.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I mean, if you are a logged in user you cannot view the system logs
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> unless you are in the adm group or root. Why should you just be able to
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> see it via switching to a tty? Seems somewhat counter intuitive to me.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it used to be enabled or not by msec depending on security level
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/msec/plugins/msec.py:    def enable_console_log(self, arg,
</I>&gt;<i> expr='*.*', dev='tty12'):
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Ahhhh, OK, so perhaps just some tweakage there could do the trick...

Col



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