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<B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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<I>Tue Jan 10 14:07:17 CET 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 03:20, Anssi Hannula <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>> wrote:
><i> The problem is that that "balance" was achieved by sticking packages in
</I>><i> PLF/main/contrib semi-randomly. For example, H.264 decoders and MPEG-4
</I>><i> video encoders are in main/core, while e.g. AAC audio decoders are in
</I>><i> PLF/tainted. If one'd put them into an order, IMO H.264 and MPEG-4 would
</I>><i> be much more prominent and tainted candidates instead of AAC decoding...
</I>><i> Also, in e.g. MPEG-4 case we have encoders both in core and in tainted,
</I>><i> e.g. we have ffmpeg in core, but xvid in tainted.
</I>
I agree we need rules, but "being covered with patents" does not make
sense, as the patent owner may agree with using it in free software.
I think something like "No actively enforced patent" in core would be good.
>><i> I suppose you can't blame a
</I>>><i> US company like RedHat for being overly paranoid, but as you said, Mandriva hasn't had any problems.  Are there any there examples out of
</I>>><i> there of distros trying to achieve this balance?  Obviously we don't want to follow Ubuntu or ROSA in pretending patents don't exist.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Linux Mint provides a "No codecs" CD:
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php">http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Ubuntu has a patent policy (which basically IIRC says "rights owner or
</I>><i> packager, please contact us if you think there is an infringement, we
</I>><i> will investgate"):
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatentPolicy">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatentPolicy</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Note also that the Ubuntu Live CD and therefore the default Ubuntu
</I>><i> installation do not contain any codecs. By default Totem is installed,
</I>><i> however, and gstreamer is plugged into "gnome-codec-install" (which
</I>><i> seems really nice, do we use it?), so that wen you try to play an
</I>><i> unsupported video the first time, it will prompt to install the codecs
</I>><i> (it will also show a warning dialog about patents etc, but AFAICS this
</I>><i> comes from gnome-codec-install itself, not Ubuntu).
</I>
This looks nice
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