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<B>Balcaen John</B>
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<PRE>Le vendredi 6 janvier 2012 14:40:25, Johnny A. Solbu a écrit :
><i> On Friday 06 January 2012 16:13, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
</I>><i> > > The system has to be intelligent enough to know what is or is not an
</I>><i> > > orphan.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > It is.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> We claim that it is not.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > orphan packages are packages that were never directly
</I>><i> > requested/installed; they're packages that got installed because they
</I>><i> > were requested or suggested by other packages that were explicitely
</I>><i> > choosed.
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</I>><i> Then why does it offer to remove packages that will Break the system, even
</I>><i> if the package was never manually requested?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I have experienced this my self, many years ago.
</I>><i> Back when I had MDK 9.1 I was looking for an id3 tag editor, for mp3
</I>><i> tagging. I installed one, tested it uninstalled it and tested a new one
</I>><i> untill I found one that suited my needs. One of the packages i tested, and
</I>><i> uninstalled, also wanted to uninstall _All_ of KDE in teh process, claming
</I>><i> KDE was no longer required.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Obviously this bug have never really been looked at, or it would have been
</I>><i> fixed long ago. Most likely this has not been reported as a bug, or the
</I>><i> bug was not correctly resolved, possibly due to inadequate descrition of
</I>><i> the bug.
</I>The bug is not in urpmi but in the installer phase here.
I guess when you did encounter that you just remove task-kde from your system,
this one is pulling all kde deps, so when removed it's logical from urpmi to
consider kde deps as orphans.
Installer should install package like kdebase4-workspace, kdebase4-runtime etc
etc so you can't face the same issue by removing task-kde for example.
(Of course it's probably more easy & they might be a reason to use task- in
installer instead of specific package).
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Balcaen John
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