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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .</H1>
<B>Thomas Spuhler</B>
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<I>Fri Jan 6 15:19:54 CET 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Friday, January 06, 2012 05:16:59 AM Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
><i> 2012/1/6 Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>>:
</I>><i> > 2012/1/6 Thierry Vignaud <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>><i> >> On 6 January 2012 12:27, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote:
</I>><i> >>> This is a well known issue.
</I>><i> >>> To clear out the list you need a deep knowledge of the system to
</I>><i> >>> determine which packages are really not needed anymore.
</I>><i> >>>
</I>><i> >>> Lately this --auto-orphans line shreddered my whole system on a fresh
</I>><i> >>> install after the first update, several system services could not
</I>><i> >>> start at next reboot, applications did not run, etc. One of the very
</I>><i> >>> few times I had to re-install because of a bug. Call me newbie or
</I>><i> >>> pussy but until this is not a secure function I will never touch it
</I>><i> >>> again.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> This is just a bogus claim:
</I>><i> >> If some apps break after removing orphan packages, they'll break too
</I>><i> >> after manually removing such packages, meaning they lack some
</I>><i> >> requires...
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Yes, right, I'd not remove such packages manually - they were marked
</I>><i> > as orphans and removed by the function - which is my claim.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> To make it clear - my claim is that the orphan function marked
</I>><i> packages as orphans which are needed and which I'd never remove
</I>><i> manually. If you have a list of 100 "orphans" it is next to impossible
</I>><i> for a normal user to sit down and check each and every package if it
</I>><i> is really an orphan (orphan in the sense of "not needed").
</I>+1
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Thomas Spuhler
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