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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] RFC: task-obsolete and README.*.urpmi enhancement</H1>
    <B>Luc Menut</B> 
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    <I>Wed Jan  4 20:13:51 CET 2012</I>
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<PRE>Le 04/01/2012 17:20, Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
&gt;&gt;<i> 1) add support for optional README.*.urpmi (%ghost in spec):
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This will allow to build this README.*.urpmi at install time in %pre,
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %post or %trigger only when it's necessary.
</I>&gt;<i> That will create files on the system unknown from rpm database, and
</I>&gt;<i> unknown from urpmi too.
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nope, %ghost files are known from rpm database.
rpm -qpl task-obsolete-1-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
/usr/share/doc/task-obsolete
/usr/share/doc/task-obsolete/README.null-dummy.obsolete.urpmi
/usr/share/doc/task-obsolete/README.null.obsolete.urpmi


&gt;<i> Rather than focusing on shiny automatic display mechanisms, I'd rather
</I>&gt;<i> work on information content.
</I>
we can|should do both.

[...]
&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Here are a few proposal of mines to make the situation better:
</I>&gt;<i> - use a unique file name, enforced by convention, rather than references
</I>&gt;<i> in package description, the same way Debian does with README.debian
</I>&gt;<i> - display its content only in graphical context: command-line users
</I>&gt;<i> usually know about this kind of convention to get information themselves
</I>&gt;<i> - use standardised file content and markup to allow rpmdrake and other
</I>&gt;<i> graphical tools to achieve the same kind of selection than file
</I>&gt;<i> splitting today
</I>&gt;<i> - define some kind of policy of what should be there, and what should
</I>&gt;<i> not, to achieve minimal consistency
</I>
I'm not particularly attached at the current system, but I find it works 
rather well.
If we want that users read informations, the information should be 
relevant in the context (too many informations, kill information);
e.g. it's useless (personnaly, I consider it's bad) to display 
information about install when we update a package, and vice versa (I 
don't know debian, and if the unique file README.debian allow this).

Luc

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