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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Task-obsolete and non-sense obsoletes</H1>
<B>andre999</B>
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<I>Tue Aug 14 01:55:23 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>nicolas vigier a écrit :
><i> On Tue, 07 Aug 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
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</I>>><i> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Olivier Thauvin
</I>>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>> wrote:
</I>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Hi,
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Many people already complain about it, but for me task-obsolete must
</I>>>><i> die.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> I don't think so, but people should not be allowed to add random
</I>>><i> obsoletes there.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>>><i> First I just remove but urpmi claim it must come back on my system...
</I>>>><i> probably because it claim to replace lib64db5.2, even maybe still need
</I>>>><i> it.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Secondly it contains non-sense dependencies:
</I>>>><i> Obsoletes: lib64db5.2< 5.2.42-3
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Any lib64db5.2 over this version will by definition obsoletes any
</I>>>><i> packages having same name.
</I>>>><i> So this mean anyone can keep the lib64db5.2 as soon the release tag
</I>>>><i> is increased or someone push into mga 2 / update any libdb higher
</I>>>><i> than 5.2.42 (5.2.43 for example).
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Moreover, any package lacking of requirements during an upgrade is
</I>>>><i> removed by urpmi.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> I no-one complain, I'll do a major cleanup (eg removing everything at
</I>>>><i> least everything starting by lib) in package this week
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> But I am still in favor to remove it. In past, package we didn't want to
</I>>>><i> support anymore was just removed from mirrors, and this was enough to
</I>>>><i> show their status.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> But people will not be notified of it.
</I>>><i> If a system is obsolete with the new distribution and known to break
</I>>><i> things/contain major security problems, I think having a place to put
</I>>><i> the obsoletes is good.
</I>>><i> But really I wouldn't expect more than 2 or 3 such packages in a release...
</I>>><i>
</I>><i> Maybe we could change task-obsolete to conflict with obsolete packages
</I>><i> instead of obsoleting them :
</I>><i> - people who want to remove unsupported packages from their system
</I>><i> install task-obsolete
</I>><i> - people who don't want to remove unsupported packages don't install
</I>><i> task-obsolete
</I>><i>
</I>><i> This will also make urpmi/rpmdrake warn before removing packages,
</I>><i> instead of silently removing them.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>+1
Conflicts would also make it easier to remove task-obsolete, if one had
inadvertantly installed it.
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André
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