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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Release Notes - reminder</H1>
    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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<PRE>2011/5/26 Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
&gt;<i> On 26 May 2011 14:42, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/26 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/25 Bruno Cornec &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Bruno.Cornec at hp.com</A>&gt;:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Backlund said on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:37:19PM +0300:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mondo package got properly epoched ~2 weeks ago:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I><A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498</A>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why do we start a new distro then, if it's to reproduce the errors made
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the previous one ?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. we promise people an upgrade path from 2010.1/2
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> They still have an upgrade path, and that wasn't raising an error.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. rpm/urpmi/rpmdrake does not read release notes
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>    (same goes for many endusers)
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I disagree. THat's one of the most important reading when I go from
</I>RHEL
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 5.x to 5.x+1, between Mandriva, Mageia or whatever distro I'm using.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's much more easy to point people to a link and tell them to read, to
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> solve their issue/question.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3. we dont do exceptions for package(r)s
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Life is plenty of exceptions. And there are times when there are good
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reasons to do them. Creating a new distro is not a task you'll do next
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> week again. Thinking to fix what was wrong in the previous one was IMO
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more important than ensuring that level of upgrade path for a couple of
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> users of a package.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I especially took time to discuss that point with Anne before taking
</I>any
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> decision and documented it
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (
</I><A HREF="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/</A>
)
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm a bit disappointed that no real discussion/vote/choice was made
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> publicly.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is an open system. You (as an interested person) could have
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> started this public discussion any time. Of course, starting it a
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> couple of days before release may be a bit late.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hi wobo
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Discussion was started some weeks ago IIRC
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wobo
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>
As a reminder, release notes are on a wiki. You can add yourself your
contribution :)

-- 
Anne
<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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