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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer</H1>
<B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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<I>Thu Mar 24 18:35:01 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 17:45, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote:
><i> But my issue is not about non-free firmwares and those who use them or
</I>><i> not, but about the gradual move to non-free packages on the free dvd iso
</I>><i> ( <A HREF="http://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-slopes/">http://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-slopes/</A> ).
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</I>><i> When I started at Mandrake Linux, there was no non-free repository. Then
</I>><i> one day, non-free was created, and then soon, it was activated by
</I>><i> default for the free version. Then I opened this bug,
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=40033">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=40033</A> , who took 2 years to be
</I>><i> fixed. And what I just see is yet another push to bury a little bit more
</I>><i> values I care.
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Please be more explicit about the values here then. So far I don't see
no push. We're discussing this. Speaking of values, is this going
against the project values and announcement so far? (even in a
slippery way)
Obviously, the very imperfect nature of free/non-free semantics does
not help at all here.
Summary (from <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy</A>):
* core: stuff that is not Free/Open Source according to OSI/FSF does
not belong here. Not even closed-source stuff that we can
redistribute. So if there is at this time, that's something to fix.
* nonfree: what does not qualify for core that we can still
redistribute; includes closed-source, proprietary, binaries and blobs.
* tainted: what could be in core or nonfree but bears more risks
(software patents, most likely for now).
Now, for what we distribute in printed medias (DVD/CD for now), the
initial point was to provide some necessary bits from nonfree along
with core so that a local install can work with some specific hardware
(network, video).
That does not prevent from shipping CD/DVD that only bear core on it I
believe? (what we used to do with Free at MDV).
And that does not prevent from shipping too CD/DVD that bears more
than that (stuff located in nonfree), to ease setup for some users (or
even make a LiveCD usable).
Is there a problem here? which one?
Romain
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