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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion</H1>
<B>mammig_linux mammig_linux</B>
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<I>Sun Jun 19 15:23:36 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Hello,
The discussion about the "Mageia life cycle" start few days ago on the
forum of the French user community of Mageia (
<A HREF="http://www.mageialinux-online.org/forum/topic-10576+cycle-de-vie-de-mageia.php">http://www.mageialinux-online.org/forum/topic-10576+cycle-de-vie-de-mageia.php</A>
:<i> for those who read French )
</I>
tTo put all the answers in a nutshell, i will say that users rather
having a new version if that bring big changes.
If the goal is to have a "windows like new version" ( with a new
design, new bugs, new system sounds, "please buy a new printer/scanner
because the new driver will never exist" or "please buy a new computer
because yours is too old/not enough memory"... and no fundamental
changes on the OS ) or something like :
Mageia(n) = Mageia(n-1) - some bugs + new design + some updates
then it's useless to have a new version each x month.
Users wants a good, strong, and long life OS.
Those who like to change the design will be happy if they have
something like "task-newdesign.RPM"
those who like news or updates will be happy with update and backports
repository.
Currently, we just put the suitcase on the floor. ( sorry, bad
translation of a french idiom ;))
The website is "temporary", like the wiki and like a lot of things.
It's hard to find new volunteers... So... We needn't to have the eyes
bigger than the stomach ( sorry, bad translation of a French idiom
O:))
Let's take time for opening the suitcase... having a good multilingual
web site with an easy management, a "not temporary" wiki, correcting
bugs, maybe make more test, create the missing and ask packages,
create stronger teams with more people. Maybe we can think of a new
way of working ( like the idea of "Proofreading" in i18n teams )...
Currently I help anaselli in his project of "educative Mageia
version", maybe it should be great to have others version of Mageia (
like a "server" version for example ).
Greeting,
mammig
PS : I think it's a good thing to have the opinion of users about
that, even if they are not english. I will not make a translation of
each message, I guess a small summary is enough.
2011/6/19 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>:
><i> andre999 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>> schrieb am 19.06.2011
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</I>>><i> Another thought about the amended freeze process.
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> Have you noticed how packagers sometimes set off an exchange of 10
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> or more emails in attempts to get a package into the release
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> during the freeze ?
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> The packager wants to submit, but they can't because cauldron is
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> frozen. Maybe if only pre-release were frozen, but cauldron open,
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> they would accept submitting to cauldron after only 1 or 2
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> exchanges. They would have the at least partial satisfaction of
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> being able to submit their package (instead of waiting, and doing
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> something else, probably elsewhere), and others would have been
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> releaved of the hassle of dealing with their repeated requests. I
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> think that would be more motivating for the packager in question,
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> as well as the others involved. And packagers would avoid wasting
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> both time and energy.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I don't know. I think most freeze push requests were due to the fact, that
</I>><i> packagers wanted to have their baby in the release.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Because every packager knows, he only has to wait some days to submit it to
</I>><i> Cauldron again.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So I don't think any packager would be any the happier by this solution.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I have to agree with misc. It would only mean having more work.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Oliver
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