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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] Strange system stalls - neep a tip</H1>
    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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    <I>Mon May 21 20:10:23 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 19:50 +0200, David Sj&#246;lin wrote:
&gt;<i> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:33 PM, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps check the logs (/var/log/messages) for information regarding those
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; downtimes.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; see if the ping also delays
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps try to monitor something via ssh or in tty, to see if it's only
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the graphic card.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; also, check ntpd settings, do they make big jumps?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; etc...
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in short: logging is always the key.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hello All -
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I am experiencing a strange problem with a specific machine running
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Cauldron.  I am beginning to believe it is NOT a Mageia problem because
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; when I boot into Ubuntu 12.04 the problem exists as well.  I think it
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; may be hardware related but I can not find what is causing this issue.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The machine is an Acer Aspire x3900 with a quad core &#8206;AMD Phenom(tm) II
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; X4 925 Processor - 6GB memory.  GeForce GT215 (GeForce 320) card. I am
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; running the x86_64 version of Cauldron.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The problem occurs under both KDE and Gnome
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Basically, the system seems to freeze up (mouse moves) but nothing else
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - gkrellem freezes and no errors occur - it just seems to hang - but
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; magically wake up again after some time (many seconds at a time)
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I have checked various logs and can not find any problems - so I am
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; stumped how to find the source of the problem.  I leave the machine
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; running 24x7, but don't think it is a thermal issue.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; When the system runs under Windows 7 (64bit) it appears to run fine.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Any hints what I could check?
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Hello!
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> If you want to log cpuusage to see if some process has extra high cpu
</I>&gt;<i> usage during this freeze you could do something like:
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> while true; do date &gt;&gt; testfilen.txt ; top -b -n1 &gt;&gt; testfilen.txt ;
</I>&gt;<i> sleep 1; done
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Then you will get top-output every second (sleep 1) or whatever time
</I>&gt;<i> you specify for sleep. I think there is a way to do this with top
</I>&gt;<i> only, without the delay but not sure which flags to use then (possibly
</I>&gt;<i> top -d 1 -b)
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> The file testfilen.txt will of course grow quite large after a while,
</I>&gt;<i> so you can't keep this running 24/7 maybe, but maybe you could clear
</I>&gt;<i> out the file regularly until you get the error situation again and
</I>&gt;<i> then based on the date output you should be able to find cpu usage
</I>&gt;<i> around the time of the problem.
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> David
</I>
Thanks for the quick responses.  I checked the cpu usage, but there
doesn't appear to be a spike - and the load average in htop is real low:

load average: 0.46, 0.67, 0.56

so if the X server or something else was maxing out the cpu, I'd see
that. 

Also, if I use a console in KDE (like yakuake) - the stalls happen in
there as well.  At first I though this was Firefox related (like flash
problem or something) because it was most noticeable when I surfed -
firefox freezes off and on and it is really frustrating.

This machine was working fine for at least a year - and I was suspecting
something with the latest kernels and the AMD processor - but have no
evidence.

The search continues . . .

Thanks again,
R.Fox



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