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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java</H1>
<B>nicolas vigier</B>
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<I>Fri Mar 30 16:00:22 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Colin Guthrie wrote:
><i> 'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 30/03/12 10:17 did gyre and gimble:
</I>><i> > Using task-obsolete is fine:
</I>><i> > - its purpose is crystal-clear
</I>><i> > - if I don't want it, I don't install it
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Adding an obsolete tag in openjdk to remove sun jdk now, for security
</I>><i> > concernes, whereas we had suffered a useless mess of at least four
</I>><i> > available java environnement at once for years uselessly (excepted for
</I>><i> > blindly applying jpackage project practices), doesn't seems quite similar.
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</I>><i> Well think of it this way (assuming I have the facts vaguely straight):
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</I>><i> Forget about Cauldron and mga2
</I>><i>
</I>><i> We're providing a known insecure version to mga1 users.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> We need to find a way to update mga1 somehow right? Or do we want to
</I>><i> just abandon them?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Assuming we do not want to abandon them, what do we do? I'd suggest
</I>><i> shipping a new empty package that replaces it with a README.urpmi
</I>><i> telling them to go to Sun directly is the most responsible thing for us
</I>><i> to do. If they do not have a JRE installed, and they have packages that
</I>><i> require one, then they should be prompted to install e.g. openjdk to
</I>><i> satisfy package deps. That should work OK right?
</I>
I think an empty package is not a good idea, it would be better to
obsolete it in task-obsolete :
- it's more clear that the package is obsoleted and is not a regular
update. Users installing an empty package as update would only see that
it is removed but not updated when it's already removed.
- package is really removed and no longer listed as installed in rpm
database
- it's easy to add task-obsolete in urpmi skip.list for people who
don't want unmaintained packages to be automatically removed
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