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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx</H1>
<B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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<I>Wed Mar 7 12:15:29 CET 2012</I>
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<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 07/03/12 10:13 did gyre and gimble:
><i> 2012/3/7 Guillaume Rousse <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>>><i> Le 07/03/2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie a écrit :
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Hi,
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
</I>>>><i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
</I>>>><i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
</I>>>><i> be available).
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
</I>>>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> What is the operational translation of 'deprecating support of foo' ?
</I>>><i> automatic answer "no support" to any user reporting issue with it ? removing
</I>>><i> it from the distribution ?
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> While I don't care about the first one, I do care about the second
</I>>><i> interpretation. Given the very high fragility of the gnome environment
</I>>><i> nowadays, using old-days tools to workaround those various issues is
</I>>><i> frequently useful.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Different from Guillaume I do care about the impact for the user.
</I>><i> There are many out there who are used to startx and also docs and
</I>><i> howtos which use it. Therefore we will need an explanation for
</I>><i> switching off startx. An explanation to be used in forums, which is a
</I>><i> bit more than just a link to a bug report. In other words: to be
</I>><i> understood by non-techie users.
</I>
To answer Guillaume's question, I wasn't personally planning on removing
it fully. Just documenting that it is broken and that users should not
use this as a mechanism for starting X.
I would propose just putting in "echo 'startx is deprecated. Here is
why..... Press any key to continue anyway.' >&2; read -n 1" in the
startx script such that users using it will be warned. Does this seem
sensible?
Col
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