<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console </TITLE> <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Minimum%20install%20of%20cauldron%20don%27t%20start%20console&In-Reply-To=%3C4F564EBD.9020001%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"> <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="012683.html"> <LINK REL="Next" HREF="012688.html"> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> <H1>[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console</H1> <B>Colin Guthrie</B> <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Minimum%20install%20of%20cauldron%20don%27t%20start%20console&In-Reply-To=%3C4F564EBD.9020001%40colin.guthr.ie%3E" TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console">mageia at colin.guthr.ie </A><BR> <I>Tue Mar 6 18:51:57 CET 2012</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="012683.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="012688.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#12686">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#12686">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#12686">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#12686">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 16:56 did gyre and gimble: ><i> 2012/3/6 Frank Griffin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>>: </I>>><i> On 03/06/2012 11:22 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: </I>>>><i> </I>>>><i> If you want to address the novice user, what do you think makes support in </I>>>><i> case of a failing x server easier for the helper AND the novice user, a </I>>>><i> black screen, a screen without a prompt but with a hanging list of messages </I>>>><i> instead - or a login prompt from where he can be directed to a solution (or </I>>>><i> given instructions to provide more information)? </I>>><i> </I>>><i> </I>>><i> Probably a better solution, if you know that X is supposed to come up but </I>>><i> isn't, is to automatically log him in as some new ID whose shell is a script </I>>><i> something like the rescue console script. The first thing it does is su him </I>>><i> to prompt for the root password, and then presents a character-based dialog </I>>><i> explaining his options, offering to run XFdrake, maybe running rpm/urpmi to </I>>><i> see if all needed packages are installed, and giving him to option to exit </I>>><i> to a real shell if he wants. </I>><i> </I>><i> Yes, that would be the next step on the road to user-friendly desaster </I>><i> management. </I> Well, that's my whole point!!! ><i> As long as we do not have this a login prompt is better than nothing. </I> So I should spend my time doing this, only to undo it later for a different solution? I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to waste time on this until it's decided that this is the all we're going to do and what we'll ship. As far as things stand I see it as tangential to what I'd like to achieve so I'd rather spend what limited time I have working on that than something that could ultimately be thrown away later. Col -- Colin Guthrie colin(at)mageia.org <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> Day Job: Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> Open Source: Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="012683.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="012688.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#12686">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#12686">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#12686">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#12686">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev mailing list</a><br> </body></html>