<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] mysql CVE's in mga1 => have it update to mariadb </TITLE> <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20mysql%20CVE%27s%20in%20mga1%20%3D%3E%20have%20it%20update%20to%20mariadb&In-Reply-To=%3C9b03516f4a3e8f10c70c36622124f321.squirrel%40mail.rmail.be%3E"> <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="014228.html"> <LINK REL="Next" HREF="014233.html"> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> <H1>[Mageia-dev] mysql CVE's in mga1 => have it update to mariadb</H1> <B>AL13N</B> <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20mysql%20CVE%27s%20in%20mga1%20%3D%3E%20have%20it%20update%20to%20mariadb&In-Reply-To=%3C9b03516f4a3e8f10c70c36622124f321.squirrel%40mail.rmail.be%3E" TITLE="[Mageia-dev] mysql CVE's in mga1 => have it update to mariadb">alien at rmail.be </A><BR> <I>Fri Apr 13 13:12:08 CEST 2012</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="014228.html">[Mageia-dev] mysql CVE's in mga1 => have it update to mariadb </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="014233.html">[Mageia-dev] mysql CVE's in mga1 => have it update to mariadb </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#14231">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#14231">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#14231">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#14231">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>><i> Le 13/04/2012 12:45, Colin Guthrie a écrit : </I>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 13/04/12 07:28 did gyre and </I>>><i> gimble: </I>>>><i> after talking with mariadb people and some others, i'm proposing to </I>>>><i> update </I>>>><i> mysql 5.5.10 to mariadb-5.5.23 in mga1. </I>>><i> </I>>><i> I would be pretty strongly against this. </I>>><i> </I>>><i> I think it's fine we're using mariadb in mga2, but I really don't fancy </I>>><i> making this switch on a stable distro. </I>>><i> </I>>><i> It just seems like a really, really bad idea. Not necessarily </I>>><i> technically, but in pretty much all other aspects - you have to consider </I>>><i> how this would be viewed as well - changing something like this for a </I>>><i> stable distro puts a big question mark over future stability and updates </I>>><i> etc. too. </I>><i> Same for me. </I>><i> </I>><i> Basically, you're proposing to break the assumption than current policy </I>><i> ensures end user than a package update from 'updates' repository for </I>><i> package 'foo' is just a bugfix for 'foo' package. You may have perfectly </I>><i> valid technical reasons, but you're *silently* changing the rule upon </I>><i> which people may have established their own policies, which is a very, </I>><i> very bad idea. </I> tbh, iinm the rule is that we like to provide only bugfix/security fix patches, but there are exceptions when that isn't possible to update to the full versions fixing this issue. Well, initially i was against this, but the options to actually fix this security bug are quite limited: 1. find all the responsible patches and add them manually ==> this is my preferred option, but seems not doable, and apparently no-one steps in and mysql isn't maintained (officially) 2. do like other distros and fix to higher mysql 5.5.22 which fixes this issue ==> this is totally not preferred for me; A) a big change between mysql 5.5.10 and mysql 5.5.22, which means huge QA load B) this also means that the mga1 -> mga2 upgrade will have to be extensively retested 3. go to the cauldron version that fixes these issues which is mariadb-5.5.23 ==> this is less preferred for me: A) a big change between mysql 5.5.10 and mysql 5.5.22, which means huge QA load B) however the mga1 -> mga2 upgrade has been tested already, so the chance of serious issues arising for this is alot less than normallY. C) since mariadb-5.5.23 is based on mysql-5.5.23, the changes are quite less than would normally be. 4. don't fix this security issue ==> this is also less preferred for me, for obvious reasons. 5. someone has a better idea? considering the response i got, now i'll default to letting someone else handle it, which might mean it never gets fixed. that would also mean for me that mageia1 would be a bad version to get LTS on. I'm open to suggestions... PS: as some people might think it's just a stupid political reason, but it's not. my reasons are detailed above. </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="014228.html">[Mageia-dev] mysql CVE's in mga1 => have it update to mariadb </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="014233.html">[Mageia-dev] mysql CVE's in mga1 => have it update to mariadb </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#14231">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#14231">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#14231">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#14231">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev mailing list</a><br> </body></html>