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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] mysql CVE's in mga1 =&gt; have it update to mariadb</H1>
    <B>AL13N</B> 
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    <I>Fri Apr 13 13:12:08 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>&gt;<i> Le 13/04/2012 12:45, Colin Guthrie a &#195;&#169;crit :
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 13/04/12 07:28 did gyre and
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gimble:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> after talking with mariadb people and some others, i'm proposing to
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> update
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mysql 5.5.10 to mariadb-5.5.23 in mga1.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would be pretty strongly against this.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it's fine we're using mariadb in mga2, but I really don't fancy
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> making this switch on a stable distro.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It just seems like a really, really bad idea. Not necessarily
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> technically, but in pretty much all other aspects - you have to consider
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> how this would be viewed as well - changing something like this for a
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stable distro puts a big question mark over future stability and updates
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> etc. too.
</I>&gt;<i> Same for me.
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> Basically, you're proposing to break the assumption than current policy
</I>&gt;<i> ensures end user than a package update from 'updates' repository for
</I>&gt;<i> package 'foo' is just a bugfix for 'foo' package. You may have perfectly
</I>&gt;<i> valid technical reasons, but you're *silently* changing the rule upon
</I>&gt;<i> which people may have established their own policies, which is a very,
</I>&gt;<i> very bad idea.
</I>
tbh, iinm the rule is that we like to provide only bugfix/security fix
patches, but there are exceptions when that isn't possible to update to
the full versions fixing this issue.


Well, initially i was against this, but the options to actually fix this
security bug are quite limited:

1. find all the responsible patches and add them manually
==&gt; this is my preferred option, but seems not doable, and apparently
no-one steps in and mysql isn't maintained (officially)

2. do like other distros and fix to higher mysql 5.5.22 which fixes this
issue
==&gt; this is totally not preferred for me;
  A) a big change between mysql 5.5.10 and mysql 5.5.22, which means huge
QA load
  B) this also means that the mga1 -&gt; mga2 upgrade will have to be
extensively retested

3. go to the cauldron version that fixes these issues which is mariadb-5.5.23
==&gt; this is less preferred for me:
  A) a big change between mysql 5.5.10 and mysql 5.5.22, which means huge
QA load
  B) however the mga1 -&gt; mga2 upgrade has been tested already, so the
chance of serious issues arising for this is alot less than normallY.
  C) since mariadb-5.5.23 is based on mysql-5.5.23, the changes are quite
less than would normally be.

4. don't fix this security issue
==&gt; this is also less preferred for me, for obvious reasons.

5. someone has a better idea?


considering the response i got, now i'll default to letting someone else
handle it, which might mean it never gets fixed. that would also mean for
me that mageia1 would be a bad version to get LTS on.


I'm open to suggestions...


PS: as some people might think it's just a stupid political reason, but
it's not. my reasons are detailed above.
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