<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Backports process (addendum to policy) </TITLE> <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Backports%20process%20%28addendum%20to%20policy%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4E69A770.5020809%40laposte.net%3E"> <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007890.html"> <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007932.html"> </HEAD> <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> <H1>[Mageia-dev] Backports process (addendum to policy)</H1> <B>andre999</B> <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Backports%20process%20%28addendum%20to%20policy%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4E69A770.5020809%40laposte.net%3E" TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Backports process (addendum to policy)">andre999.mga at laposte.net </A><BR> <I>Fri Sep 9 07:43:12 CEST 2011</I> <P><UL> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007890.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports process (addendum to policy) </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007932.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports process (addendum to policy) </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#7905">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#7905">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#7905">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#7905">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <HR> <!--beginarticle--> <PRE>Samuel Verschelde a écrit : ><i> Le jeudi 8 septembre 2011 21:16:50, Florian Hubold a écrit : </I>>><i> Am 08.09.2011 13:08, schrieb Colin Guthrie: </I>>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 08/09/11 11:59 did gyre and </I>><i> gimble: </I>>>>><i> (QA Team and Triage team in CC, but please answer only to </I>>>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>) </I>>>>><i> </I>>>>><i> I was asked to define a process for backports validation, so here is a </I>>>>><i> proposal. We can discuss it a few days and then I'll add the result to </I>>>>><i> the backports policy page. </I>>>>><i> </I>>>>><i> Process for backports : </I>>>>><i> </I>>>>><i> Triage: </I>>>>><i> - identify backport requests </I>>>>><i> - add "Backport Request: " in the bug report summary </I>>>>><i> - add the "backport" keyword </I>>>>><i> - assign to maintainer </I>>>>><i> </I>>>>><i> The maintainer can refuse to do the backport : </I>>>>><i> - doesn't want to maintain it => assign the bug report back to </I>>>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bugsquad at mageia.org</A> so that another packager can step in </I>>>>><i> - has a good reason for not providing this backport (policy, possible </I>>>>><i> breakage...) => close as wontfix </I> It would be a good idea to require giving the reason why refused, for clarity. (e.g. "Don't intend to maintain" or "Will conflict with version 123 of xyz", or whatever.) >>>><i> </I>>>>><i> Packager: </I>>>>><i> - create bug report if not done already </I>>>>><i> - submit to {core,nonfree,tainted}/backports_testing </I>>>><i> </I>>>><i> Is this straight from the cauldron tree in subversion? </I>>>><i> </I>>>>><i> - find a tester : original bug reporter when there is one, yourself if </I>>>>><i> there's none, or ask in forums/irc/MLs... </I>>>>><i> - once tested by at least one person (it must be said explicitly in the </I>>>>><i> bug </I>>>>><i> </I>>>>><i> report), hand it to QA : </I>>>>><i> - make sure the bug report summary starts with "Backport Request: " </I>>>>><i> or </I>>>>><i> </I>>>>><i> "Backport Candidate:" </I>>>>><i> </I>>>>><i> - add the "backport" keyword if missing </I>>>>><i> - assign to <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">qa-bugs at ml.mageia.org</A> </I>>>>><i> - list the source RPMs if there are several </I>>>>><i> </I>>>>><i> - be ready to fix bugs and answer QA team questions </I>>>>><i> </I>>>>><i> QA: </I>>>>><i> - test backports the same way that we test updates. But don't forget </I>>>>><i> that updates have a higher priority than that of backports. </I>>>>><i> - move the packages from backports_testing to backports </I>>>><i> </I>>>><i> Just from a man power perspective this, could be a lot of work for QA </I>>>><i> (even at lower priority) but I cannot see a way to improve this without </I>>>><i> sacrificing quality control! </I>>><i> </I>>><i> If the packager himself does basic testing and makes sure backport works, </I>>><i> that would relieve QA from some work, no? </I>><i> </I>><i> In my opinion this is what a packager should always do, be it for an update, a </I>><i> backport, or a package in cauldron. But this doesn't remove the need for a QA </I>><i> validation if we want to guarantee a minimal level of quality. </I> Agree - that should always be done. QA is there to find what the packager might have missed. It seems an excellent backport policy - the weak link being the backport packager having to commit to support for the life of the release -- even though we can't garantie that it will be the case, that is a good requirement. ><i> </I>><i> Samuel </I>><i> </I> -- André </PRE> <!--endarticle--> <HR> <P><UL> <!--threads--> <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007890.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports process (addendum to policy) </A></li> <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007932.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports process (addendum to policy) </A></li> <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> <a href="date.html#7905">[ date ]</a> <a href="thread.html#7905">[ thread ]</a> <a href="subject.html#7905">[ subject ]</a> <a href="author.html#7905">[ author ]</a> </LI> </UL> <hr> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev mailing list</a><br> </body></html>