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<B>andre999</B>
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<I>Mon Oct 17 04:19:44 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
><i> Philippe DIDIER a écrit :
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> Joaquin Mandriva a écrit :
</I>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Hello!
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> My name is Joaquin, belonging to <A HREF="http://blogdrake.net">http://blogdrake.net</A>
</I>>>><i> <<A HREF="http://blogdrake.net/">http://blogdrake.net/</A>> team. I am
</I>>>><i> writing to you because I would like to let you know that we have
</I>>>><i> created a repository with a big amount of good programs for Mageia.
</I>>>><i> Our final target is to upload all of them to the official Mageia's
</I>>>><i> repositories.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> We are currently uploading all these packages to the Mageia's BS step
</I>>>><i> by step, because there are few people of us to do so. Also, also we
</I>>>><i> don't have too much time because we also take care of Blogdrake,
</I>>>><i> Mageia's news and the translations English to Spanish.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Meanwhile, you can use and enjoy our repository in this way:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586</A>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> The x86_64 repository is not finished yet, but you still can add it in
</I>>>><i> this way:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib
</I>>>><i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64</A>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Cheers!
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i> Hello
</I>>><i> Thanks to you...
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Just one thing to correct : your repos addresses are :
</I>>><i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/</A>
</I>>><i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/</A>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> nevertheless I could surf through your repos :
</I>>><i> Some of the rpms you propose reply to rpm requests already done or that
</I>>><i> I was going to write (reading my thoughts ?)
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> :)
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> First thing I must say : it's a very good idea to upload these packages
</I>>><i> to the BS and join the packagers team instead of providing third party
</I>>><i> repos that will soon create compatibility problems (as in the past for
</I>>><i> Mandrake and Mandriva with Thac's or MIB or others)
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> The second thing is : before uploading them you will have to be careful
</I>>><i> with the repos policy (core tainted non-free)
</I>>><i> In your own repo, there is a problematic package : faac (and libfaac0
</I>>><i> libfaac-devel) which is both non-free and tainted ...
</I>>><i> After long dicussions on the mailing list a meeting decision was not to
</I>>><i> provide it at the moment (nor the packages built with it...)
</I>>><i> If a non-free-&-tainted repo is created for Mageia2, in the future, it
</I>>><i> will be then allowed ... wait and see !
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>><i> I was thinking about a workaround to the problem of "non-free_&_tainted"
</I>><i> rpms in Mageia
</I>><i>
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Some multimedia programs can't correctly handle files containing aac
</I>><i> sound (*.aac *.mp4 *.m4a) because faac and faac-devel are not provided.
</I>><i> And that's really missing !!!
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> They can't and won't be backported to Mageia1 official repos...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Perhaps a new "non-free& tainted" repo will exist for Mageia2
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Actually for Mageia1 Blogdrake might provide a third repo for this dozen
</I>><i> of srpms (even if the existence of third repo is not riskless)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Picking their last spec file from Mageia, and modifying the plf or
</I>><i> tainted conditionnal building options to allow building with
</I>><i> faac-devel... wouldn't be too much difficult and wouldn't bring much
</I>><i> compatibility problems
</I>><i>
</I>><i> If the version number is the same as in mageia repos, a "twisted"
</I>><i> distsuffix would allow to "update" to them from core or tainted version
</I>><i> (the same way as "tainted" distsuffix allows to update from a core release)
</I>><i> and wouldn't prevent to update to a core or tainted new version later if
</I>><i> provided in official updates repo
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But... there's the :
</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317</A>
</I>><i> would it add other problems to this ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But too there wouldn't exist QA for them
</I>><i>
</I>><i> What do you think (on Mageia side and on Blogdrake side) ?
</I>><i>
</I>
A personal POV from the Mageia side --
It could be a good way to evaluate the need for a Nonfree+Tainted repo,
as well as providing a ready source for those interested in such packages.
Maybe another approach could be to try to separate nonfree and tainted
parts, so that either
- nonfree packages could optionally use "tainted" packages if installed, or
- "tainted" packages could optionally use nonfree packages if installed,
each in their respective current repos.
Which won't work if a particular component is necessarily both nonfree
and "tainted".
my 2 cents :-)
--
André
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