[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

[Thorsten van Lil]

Am 14.06.2011 08:48, schrieb Oliver Burger:
> Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de> schrieb am 14.06.2011
>  > An Upgrade is nearly the same, than reinstalling. The difference is
>  > only, that you can use your system in the mean time and you are
>  > not forced to install the missing packages.
>
> And you keep all your precious settings and databases and webroots and...
>
> And of couse the software you did unstall outside of the package
> management (proprietary stuff,...).
>
>
> And a bit to the argument of having to install loads of software at the
> same time: When some basic libraries are upgraded, loads of software
> have to be rebuilt against them, so with the rolling aproach you will
> just get that massive upgrades more often, so where is the bonus in it?

For sure. No matter what release model you want to take, if you want an 
up to date system, you have to update (if this is your counter 
argument). But it's a different if I have to update everything (~3GB) at 
once or if I have to update ~100MB in a week. And it's a difference if I 
have to wait for the software 1/2 year or just a month (if I only want 
to use official supported repos).

> If people want to have their software more up to date, use backports

Backports aren't supposed to be for the averaged user and shouldn't be 
used to bring the half of your system up to date. We could rework the 
backports and than officially support them (wouldn't this solve also the 
issue with new packages in mga1?). But than we have almost 2 different 
release models. I'm not sure this is what we want.

Well, Oliver. You are a packager. I'm not. Our menpower is the 
restriction in the whole discussion. If it isn't, we could provide every 
thoughtable release model and cycle and everyone would be happy. But 
that's not the case. So, if a proposal is unworkably please tell us, as 
well as your other concerns.

In my first post I tried to summarize all advantages and disadvantages 
of the different release models. Did I miss a point, than please add it. 
And I'm also fine with a static release model, but I think such a light 
rolling can have a lot of advantages.

Thorsten