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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later</H1>
<B>Kamil Rytarowski</B>
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<I>Thu Dec 8 12:33:28 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>W dniu 08.12.2011 11:04, Samuel Verschelde pisze:
><i> Hi,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I consider the (first phase of) the adoption campaign finished, so here are some
</I>><i> stats about it, and an opening for discussion about what to do next.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> We had 4931 packages without a maintainer, we now have 2043, so I think we can
</I>><i> say that the campaign was a success in this regard : nearly 3000 source
</I>><i> packages have found a maintainer.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> See <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt</A> for the list of orphan
</I>><i> packages.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Out of 57 packagers with submit rights (I might have missed a few that got
</I>><i> submit rights recently, but it wont change the results much):
</I>><i> - 35 are now "full" (or even took too much packages)
</I>><i> - 11 answered at some point that they were going to have a look at the list
</I>><i> and maybe grab more packages, but didn't give me feedback after that, even
</I>><i> after a new mail sent. We can suppose that they are now "full" too.
</I>><i> - 6 are inactive (no packaging in months)
</I>><i> - 5 well-known active packagers never answered in 3 months either to the
</I>><i> mailing list or to my direct mails (sent at @mageia.org addresses), which is a
</I>><i> bit disappointing considering the amount of time I put into this campaign, but
</I>><i> I want to thank the vast majority who was really willing to help in this
</I>><i> campaign.
</I>Hello, I just inform that I was collecting the data for this action, the
stats are here <A HREF="http://kamil.mageia.org.pl/MageiaStats/">http://kamil.mageia.org.pl/MageiaStats/</A> it says about the
daily ration of the maintained and the unmaintained packages + how many
full-packagers maintain at least a single package.
><i> The conclusion is that for most packagers the maintainers database is now up
</I>><i> to date, with maybe a few more orphan packages that could find a maintainer,
</I>><i> but not a lot.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I would have liked that there be no need for such a campaign, but events
</I>><i> showed that there's a real need for someone who sends reminders to the mailing
</I>><i> lists, pings packagers, points out important orphan packages. Waiting for
</I>><i> things to solve themselves doesn't work :) However, this demands a lot of
</I>><i> energy and I would be glad if someone could replace me in this task, because I
</I>><i> lack time to develop Mageia App Db. I volunteered only because there was a gap
</I>><i> to fulfill, but would be glad to see someone else become the official Orphan
</I>><i> Packages Protector.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> His/her work would be the following:
</I>><i> - identifiy (with bugsquad's help) the orphan packages that have lots of
</I>><i> unresolved bugs or are severely outdated,
</I>><i> - do the same for packages that have a maintainer but are in a similar
</I>><i> situation,
</I>><i> - try to find packagers or apprentices to take care of them. Not necessarily
</I>><i> make them become maintainer, but at least solve users bugs.
</I>><i> - try to find maintainers for orphan packages.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I'm willing to help with advice or tools but would like to not be the person
</I>><i> in charge, if possible, so that I can really make the Mageia App Db available
</I>><i> before Mageia 2.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Does someone volunteer? It is a job that demands a lot of energy and
</I>><i> confidence, but I think it would be a really useful contribution. Bugsquad is
</I>><i> already doing part of this, but they have other duties, so someone dedicated
</I>><i> to this task could maybe help.
</I>Before we start to do that, do you remember about these words:
>Currently the data about ownership of packages is tracked in
<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt</A> and umaintined packages are
listed in <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt.">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/unmaintained.txt.</A> This will
be better integrated and managed at a later point, and we will have a
grace period for unmaintained packages. After the grace period, packages
without a maintainer will be reviewed and any packages without a
maintainer will be nominated for deletion.
source <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines</A>
I look into many really abandoned packages, without any interest among
the packagers, and for some of them it's even quite hard to find any
on-line resource.. For example cpuinfo, it's a /proc/* parser for CPU
related data. It's 2-3 years old (so what about the new hardware?!),
even the author of the software isn't responding to e-mail to just point
a working URL for his software.
><i> Best regards
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde
</I>Regards
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