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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal: Deprecate draknetcenter+network init scripts after systemd becomes default.</H1>
<B>Michael Scherer</B>
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<I>Tue Aug 23 16:54:31 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Le mardi 23 août 2011 à 11:01 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit :
><i> 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 23/08/11 10:10 did gyre and gimble:
</I>><i> > Le mardi 23 août 2011 à 09:30 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit :
</I>><i> >> 'Twas brillig, and Michael scherer at 22/08/11 13:14 did gyre and gimble:
</I>><i> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 08:44:01AM -0300, Balcaen John wrote:
</I>><i> >>>> Le Monday 22 August 2011 12:57:23 Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
</I>><i> >>>>> On 22/08/2011 11:57, Colin Guthrie wrote:
</I>><i> >>>>>> I also have it on good authority that many of the features lacking
</I>><i> >>>>>> in NetworkManager (such as bridging configuration) will be
</I>><i> >>>>>> available in the not too distant future and many other more
</I>><i> >>>>>> advanced networking features such as fast-start DHCP,
</I>><i> >>>>>> per-interface DNS, 4-8's DNS fallback and several other nice
</I>><i> >>>>>> features will ultimately be possible too.
</I>><i> >>>>> While I don't care about configuration wizards, I do about
</I>><i> >>>>> initscripts. How are you supposed to configure a server in some
</I>><i> >>>>> automated manner without plain-old configuration files ?
</I>><i> >>>> If i'm not wrong you can still drop plain text files in
</I>><i> >>>> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
</I>><i> >>>
</I>><i> >>> Provided you want to do nothing fancy like bridge, vlan and
</I>><i> >>> others stuff that are used by sysadmins.
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> As I said in my initial email, but was not clear. All of these things
</I>><i> >> will be supported in a much nicer way in the near future.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > But so far, this is not supported. And since we have said we do not
</I>><i> > remove non systemd from Mageia 2
</I>><i> > ( <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006701.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006701.html</A> ) ,
</I>><i> > I think we cannot take systemd for granted before mageia 3.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Yup, that's why I mentioned mageia 3 in my initial mail.
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Oups, I misread :/
Then my answer is "we didn't even released 2, so let's keep discussion
about 3 for later"
( seriously, it didn't even occurs to me that we would start discussing
3 right now )
Personnaly, I think that would be good to have something better than
current initscripts and shell based approach for managing network
( since we already manage the network with ifplugd, having a daemon is
not a so big problem, and I am sure we could have a mode where the
daemon apply the configuration and then disappear, if that make people
less nervous ). But I would really make sure that people agree with the
change. I would rather avoid having the same type of discussion than on
fedora-devel
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Michael Scherer
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