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<H1>[Mageia-dev] %{foo} vs. %foo</H1>
<B>D.Morgan</B>
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<I>Mon Aug 22 00:49:34 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote:
><i> 'Twas brillig, and Zé at 21/08/11 23:16 did gyre and gimble:
</I>>><i> Hi,
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Theres been a private discussion regarding the macro correct layout, if
</I>>><i> %{foo} or %foo.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> This rised when in the wiki
</I>>><i> page <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=kde4_packaging_policy">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=kde4_packaging_policy</A> i changed
</I>>><i> the spec layout from %foo into %{foo} to be as a reference point, in
</I>>><i> wich mikala has reverted back to %foo, and this discussion has taken
</I>>><i> other porportions so i would like your opinions regarding this.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> I have pointed that for a wiki page should be proper to use %{...} to
</I>>><i> avoid doubts specially in beginners minds, since in some situations we
</I>>><i> need really to use the {} delimitations.
</I>>><i> In wich its recommendation its focused in this cute PDF from redhat website:
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/2008/downloads/pdf/Wednesday_130pm_Tom_Callaway_OSS.pdf">http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/2008/downloads/pdf/Wednesday_130pm_Tom_Callaway_OSS.pdf</A>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Im not refering that now we should use only %{...}, that usage can be
</I>>><i> handled from the user prespective (for example in my specs locally i
</I>>><i> generally dont use delimitations), some like others dont.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> As we also see in rpm macros
</I>>><i> document <A HREF="http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/Macros">http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/Macros</A> that we can use
</I>>><i> both, but in all rpm docs and config files the common usage its with
</I>>><i> delimitations.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> FWIW, personally I tend to use delimiters also.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I prefer it as it feels more like strict typing.... I know it's not but
</I>><i> I always like to make things totally and unequivocally explicit all the
</I>><i> same.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I tend to do this in my bash scripts and even in PHP scripts too (tho'
</I>><i> annoyingly the PHP delimiters go outside of the variable identifier
</I>><i> unlike in RPM macros and bash, so it's syntactically a little different
</I>><i> but the same principles apply).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Cheers
</I>><i>
</I>
Me, i use both ( this depend if the rpm i work in had it or not ) but
for new rpm i use %foo.
But i don't see a need to add a policy for %{foo} against %foo.
I don't understand Ze mail, he ask to use %{foo} and imposed it by
changing in a spec file stating " i changed the spec layout from %foo
into %{foo} to be as a reference point, " and then in the same mail i
read "for example in my specs locally i generally dont use
delimitations".
why this mail if you personnaly don't really care about the question ?
just because mikala wasn't agree with you ?
P.S: yeah i started to have enough now... ( too )
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