[Mageia-sysadm] install of a websvn on svn server ?

Tue Nov 9 18:48:23 CET 2010

On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 02:31:06PM +0100, Dexter Morgan wrote:
+ 
+> can you tell some other alternatives ? so we can take a look to them
+> and choose the one that fit the more our needs.
+
+We should maybe start by explicting the needs ?
+
+I can propose some :
+
+- must be able to enumerate distant svn ( unless we place it on valstar
+, and I think we shouldn't for security reasons, as this is the
+server that old all passwords and the future gpg key of
+the distribution, among others, so it should IMHO be kept free
+of interaction with internet as much as possible  )
+
+- must be able to cope with big repository ( as Mandriva still suffer from 
+problem when looking at the svn for packages ). The patch for directory
+limitation seems to have applied and lost on the viewvc we used ( one
+more reason to use rpm of the distribution and to push patch upstream )
+
+- must not be a ressources hog ( as it will likely be indexed sooner
+or later by Google or a search engine, even if we can suppose
+that robots.txt will be used to prevent that ). This also exclude 
+all setup based on basic CGI, for well know performance reasons.
+
+- must be maintained, packaged, without a history full of security hole
+that would make Berlin wall look rock solid in comparaison.
+
+- do we plan to host git repository ? It seems so ( we did at mandriva, 
+and I think a growing number of contributers will want it ). Others
+SCMs ? I do not know, but we should ask. ( but I never seen people asking
+for bzr and hg hosting, maybe nanar for darcs ). We can also say this is
+not the goal of this tool, as we did fr mdv.
+
+- must be easy to theme 
+- should be without recompiling the whole rpm
+- should not need to copy the css ( ie, take a distant one, as this
+will ease the job of the webteam and help on perfs )
+
+- should support ACLs. While we do not need for the moment, but
+this may be a need that will arise for the secteam or for keeping password
+( see my previous mail about it for extlookup, puppet and so one ).
+
+If we decide we need ACLs, we need to find how to plug them to ldap. 
+A simple apache module could do the trick, depend on the url used.
+
+- should support non text content ( to display imagess )
+for website for example.
+
+- must handle diff ( for text )
+
+- should support syntax highligthing
+
+And finally, maybe ask directly to the people who will use if 
+they have some needs not fullfilled by the current tools ( without
+getting out of the scope of the use case "look at svn using the web" )
+
+For example, a link to the bugtracker when we see #foo123 in commit message 
+would be nice. Some people also would like to see a nice ajax interface,
+and some would like to have it working without it.
+
+And for tools proposal we can either use
+websvn, viewvc, or try to use redmine/trac and hide everything 
+( and I think we should rather avoid this solution ).
+Some people on stackoverlow.com seems to say that usvn could be 
+used too ( even if it does much more than what we think ).
+
+There is also some other non free solution, like fisheye, but I would
+not recommend for obvious reasons.
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+