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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Romain d'Alverny + rda at mageia.org +
+ Thu May 5 19:24:13 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi there,
+
+a quick update.
+
+First. Do we have new meeting time options?
+
+On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 23:43, Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org> wrote:
+>>>    - hugs; quick to setup and throw;
+>>
+>> Yep. And *always* good!
+>
+> Ok. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043
+
+It's online on http://hugs.mageia.org/ - hopefully with more picture
+from contributors soon (need to explicit the process to have one's
+pictures there).
+
+
+>>>    - blog post series (technical stacks first, contributors second, [...]
+
+Started a draft for the introductory post:
+http://blog.mageia.org/en/?p=767&preview=true - comments welcome
+
+So far, I asked three persons, got one reply (minus the missing
+picture :-p ) maybe should I post the full call on -dev or -discuss?
+
+We start with the tech series and the format is the one described in
+http://piratepad.net/AX93jcSCTo
+
+
+> Then we'll need to refine the download & support portals.
+
+We'll probably start to discuss this tomorrow Friday online with obgr
+(on #mageia-web, around 14:00 Paris time), then on Tuesday or
+Wednesday in Solutions Linux event in Paris, then on Thursday/Friday
+with obgr and others in Berlin for LinuxTag. And we will make back an
+online summary of that the week after. If anyone already have
+design/mockups/anything, bring them in!
+
+>> The kakemono - is it finished, and did Damien get to use it?
+
+So far, we're going to print a A2 size poster with the logo - we'll
+need to have something prepared more in advance for next time.
+
+>>>  * marketing plan: [...]
+> Will do next week (and will be around on irc). I'm offline until Monday now.
+
+And... I was late again. And the original plan I layed out shifted as
+well. Anyway, I posted it here:
+http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=planning (it's next to unreadable
+compared to a spreadsheet, still better than a calendar... should find
+another option). Still, it helps to plan a bit in advance and see
+where we could go (and what to remove already if we can't make it).
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia

+ Romain d'Alverny + rda at mageia.org +
+ Thu May 5 19:27:38 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi Juergen,
+
+On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 21:04, Juergen Harms <Juergen.Harms at unige.ch> wrote:
+> Probably the list would best be compiled by collecting ideas and arguments
+> in this or some other ML, but doing some central editing to keep it well
+> focused and snappy. Another question is how to make it available - probably
+> the preliminary wiki or the blog are good places.
+
+ * Wiki first, to collect organize.
+ * then we can instill parts of it in the blog
+ * more surely we can use this to shape the website pages promoting the release.
+
+Hmmm do you have a list to start with? :-p
+
+> ---- original message to the mageia discuss list -------
+>
+> Does a list exist which enumerates arguments in favour of selecting Mageia
+> when choosing a Linux distribution? - a vademecum for Mageia addicts for
+> proselyte making.
+>
+> When advocating Mageia, it would be nice not to have to invent  the same
+> list somebody else compiled a couple of days ago, just for himself, and
+> would be nice to know the striking arguments oneself did not think about.
+>
+> I just saw on our Linux ML in the university a debate (k)Ubuntu or Mint or
+> ... - nice occasion to drop the good message. I think the present time is an
+> excellent moment: even if the distro says "only for testing", Beta is mature
+> for production - anticipate the campaign certainly planned for the official
+> launch by an "insider campaign". Some organising of spreading the gospel
+> will certainly help.
+
+
+Romain
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Thu May 5 19:33:58 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/5 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+> Hi there,
+>
+> a quick update.
+>
+> First. Do we have new meeting time options?
+>
+> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 23:43, Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org> wrote:
+>>>>    - hugs; quick to setup and throw;
+>>>
+>>> Yep. And *always* good!
+>>
+>> Ok. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043
+>
+> It's online on http://hugs.mageia.org/ - hopefully with more picture
+> from contributors soon (need to explicit the process to have one's
+> pictures there).
+
+Hmm, what is this about? I know that some people like to hug everybody
+who does not quit the scene immediately (François B. :) ), but how is
+this related to Mageia?
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Romain d'Alverny + rda at mageia.org +
+ Thu May 5 19:38:37 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 19:33, Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com> wrote:
+> 2011/5/5 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+>> It's online on http://hugs.mageia.org/ - hopefully with more picture
+>> from contributors soon (need to explicit the process to have one's
+>> pictures there).
+>
+> Hmm, what is this about? I know that some people like to hug everybody
+> who does not quit the scene immediately (François B. :) ), but how is
+> this related to Mageia?
+
+As I explained before, that's a small detail in the "show the
+friendly, human side" of the project; it's not a question of faking
+anything; pictures of people+posters there should be genuine
+participants in the project. It's a small, anecdotal, low-traffic page
+meant to put some fun, nothing more, nothing less.
+
+Romain
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Thu May 5 21:32:07 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/5 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 19:33, Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com> wrote:
+>> 2011/5/5 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+>>> It's online on http://hugs.mageia.org/ - hopefully with more picture
+>>> from contributors soon (need to explicit the process to have one's
+>>> pictures there).
+>>
+>> Hmm, what is this about? I know that some people like to hug everybody
+>> who does not quit the scene immediately (François B. :) ), but how is
+>> this related to Mageia?
+>
+> As I explained before, that's a small detail in the "show the
+> friendly, human side" of the project; it's not a question of faking
+> anything; pictures of people+posters there should be genuine
+> participants in the project. It's a small, anecdotal, low-traffic page
+> meant to put some fun, nothing more, nothing less.
+
+Yes, I read that and understood it to be some kind of "who we are"
+page where everybody of the Mageia crowd can show his face - but why
+is it called "hugs"? That's what I don't understand. If I'd place my
+pic there I don't want to hug anybody, I'd just want to show them what
+face hides behind the name in case anybody would ask for it.
+May be I don't understand the whole meaning of this.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Thu May 5 22:44:58 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi,
+
+> First. Do we have new meeting time options?
+
+Sorry - still travelling, so not around for a meeting this week, but
+I´m happy to keep Thursday if we can make the time later - say 18:30
+UTC or later. I don´t know what other people would like, so I´m
+flexible as to day - but not really as to time.
+
+> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 23:43, Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>
+> wrote:
+> >>>    - hugs; quick to setup and throw;
+> >>
+> >> Yep. And *always* good!
+> >
+> > Ok. https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043
+> 
+> It's online on http://hugs.mageia.org/ - hopefully with more picture
+> from contributors soon (need to explicit the process to have one's
+> pictures there).
+
+8-) I like it. I think Wobo should *definitely* get the first hug.
+
+> >>>    - blog post series (technical stacks first, contributors
+> >>> second, [...]
+> 
+> Started a draft for the introductory post:
+> http://blog.mageia.org/en/?p=767&preview=true - comments welcome
+> 
+> So far, I asked three persons, got one reply (minus the missing
+> picture :-p ) maybe should I post the full call on -dev or -discuss?
+> 
+> We start with the tech series and the format is the one described in
+> http://piratepad.net/AX93jcSCTo
+
+8-) It´s not easy. Maybe start with the board, to set an example?
+
+> > Then we'll need to refine the download & support portals.
+> 
+> We'll probably start to discuss this tomorrow Friday online with obgr
+> (on #mageia-web, around 14:00 Paris time), then on Tuesday or
+> Wednesday in Solutions Linux event in Paris, then on Thursday/Friday
+> with obgr and others in Berlin for LinuxTag. And we will make back an
+> online summary of that the week after. If anyone already have
+> design/mockups/anything, bring them in!
+> 
+> >> The kakemono - is it finished, and did Damien get to use it?
+> 
+> So far, we're going to print a A2 size poster with the logo - we'll
+> need to have something prepared more in advance for next time.
+> 
+> >>>  * marketing plan: [...]
+> > Will do next week (and will be around on irc). I'm offline until
+> > Monday now.
+> 
+> And... I was late again. And the original plan I layed out shifted as
+> well. Anyway, I posted it here:
+> http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=planning (it's next to unreadable
+> compared to a spreadsheet, still better than a calendar... should find
+> another option). Still, it helps to plan a bit in advance and see
+> where we could go (and what to remove already if we can't make it).
+
+It´s a great start. I´ll be back on deck next week around Thursday, so
+hopefully I´ll have some contribution to make - thanks for keeping the
+cauldron simmering!
+
+Cheers,
+
+-- 
+Patricia Fraser
+On the move
+Gnu/Linux 1997-2008 #283226 counter.li.org
+Dark Side - approach with caution
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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Thu May 5 23:10:09 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
What I missed in this review is the practical side - referring to the
+events coming up. They may be not so important in the long run as the
+whole  discussion about values and targets and hugging places, but
+they are needed next week!
+
+ - do we have some kind of marketing there except for the poster and
+the t-shirts?
+ - what about a presentation running on a screen?
+ - what about stickers?
+ - what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+
+For Berlin we will have:
+ - a large poster
+ - t-shirts
+ - a presentation (LO Impress) running on a 26" screen
+ - CDs to be burned on request (would be nice to have a label
+available for download)
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Romain d'Alverny + rda at mageia.org +
+ Fri May 6 10:23:13 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 21:32, Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com> wrote:
+> Yes, I read that and understood it to be some kind of "who we are"
+> page where everybody of the Mageia crowd can show his face - but why
+> is it called "hugs"? That's what I don't understand. If I'd place my
+> pic there I don't want to hug anybody, I'd just want to show them what
+> face hides behind the name in case anybody would ask for it.
+
+That's for a totally different thing. hugs is anecdotal and
+volunteered-based. For what you describe, bonjourmageia* and the blog
+and the profile/team pages are more to the point.
+
+Romain
+
+ + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Romain d'Alverny + rda at mageia.org +
+ Fri May 6 10:30:21 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 23:10, Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com> wrote:
+>  - do we have some kind of marketing there except for the poster and
+> the t-shirts?
+
+Not that I know of here.
+
+>  - what about a presentation running on a screen?
+>  - what about stickers?
+
+I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+
+>  - what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+
+Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+a basic one with just the logo.
+
+We may be short/small on materials so far but then we can focus on
+speaking with people and better identifying where we can do something
+differently.
+
+Romain
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Fri May 6 11:45:11 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 23:10, Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com> wrote:
+>>  - do we have some kind of marketing there except for the poster and
+>> the t-shirts?
+>
+> Not that I know of here.
+>
+>>  - what about a presentation running on a screen?
+>>  - what about stickers?
+>
+> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+
+The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+
+>>  - what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+>
+> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+> a basic one with just the logo.
+
+Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+
+> We may be short/small on materials so far but then we can focus on
+> speaking with people and better identifying where we can do something
+> differently.
+
+It's not so much about "short on material", there's a lot which could
+have been done (like nice CD/DVD labels, a nice screen presentation,
+graphical flyer layout with a general text to be translated and used
+in different countries, etc.
+
+At least these major European events have been known to come for many
+months (even listed as milestones in the wiki) and it looks as if I
+was the only one asking constantly for these kinds of things (starting
+in late February/March). IMHO these practical needs were a bit
+neglected because everybody in this section was occupied by
+discussions about marketing theories. Sorry to say that, but this is
+how it looks in reality.
+
+Pls do not take this so much as critic of the past - to late and
+useless to discuss - but rather as a hint for marketing tasks for
+future events.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Romain d'Alverny + rda at mageia.org +
+ Fri May 6 13:28:26 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:45, Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com> wrote:
+> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+>>>  - what about stickers?
+>>
+>> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+>
+> The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+
+I'm getting those on Monday - I will only bring them with me on
+Thursday, indeed.
+
+>>>  - what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+>>
+>> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+>> a basic one with just the logo.
+>
+> Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+
+I think ennael is on this.
+
+> It's not so much about "short on material", there's a lot which could
+> have been done (like nice CD/DVD labels, a nice screen presentation,
+> graphical flyer layout with a general text to be translated and used
+> in different countries, etc.
+>
+> At least these major European events have been known to come for many
+> months (even listed as milestones in the wiki) and it looks as if I
+> was the only one asking constantly for these kinds of things (starting
+> in late February/March). IMHO these practical needs were a bit
+> neglected because everybody in this section was occupied by
+> discussions about marketing theories. Sorry to say that, but this is
+> how it looks in reality.
+
+Or too busy on other bits of the project or elsewhere. So that
+naturally leaves more room for discussions, indeed, instead of getting
+more things done and released.
+
+Maybe having a time plan layed out in a more practical way + assigned
+tasks (making it more visual/obvious to more people) could help a bit
+more.
+
+Romain
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Fri May 6 13:47:24 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:45, Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com> wrote:
+>> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+>>>>  - what about stickers?
+>>>
+>>> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+>>
+>> The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+>
+> I'm getting those on Monday - I will only bring them with me on
+> Thursday, indeed.
+
+Ok, so we will have them for the harvester days (Friday/saturday) :)
+
+>>>>  - what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+>>>
+>>> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+>>> a basic one with just the logo.
+>>
+>> Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+>
+> I think ennael is on this.
+
+She sent it over already and I will change the short text line to
+german, so we can use it in Berlin. I will also put it on the server
+for our German users.
+I think Anne will use it at Solutions Linux as well.
+
+> Or too busy on other bits of the project or elsewhere. So that
+> naturally leaves more room for discussions, indeed, instead of getting
+> more things done and released.
+>
+> Maybe having a time plan layed out in a more practical way + assigned
+> tasks (making it more visual/obvious to more people) could help a bit
+> more.
+
+At mandrivauser.de we write such things down in the wiki, assign
+people to it (all of this very early) and then those people have to
+get their tasks done when the time comes. This way there will be
+(almost) no "last minute tasks".
+
+I see the whole matter from both sides as well. The problem is:
+Discussions about strategies and plans and elsewhere are essential, no
+doubt. But it is also possible to prolongue such discussions past a
+first deadline if needed. The simple practical and visible things can
+not be postponed because they are bound to fixed schedules (such as
+events and release dates).
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + +
+

+ +
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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Anne nicolas + ennael at mageia.org +
+ Fri May 6 14:18:52 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/6 Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com>:
+> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:45, Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com> wrote:
+>>> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+>>>>>  - what about stickers?
+>>>>
+>>>> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+>>>
+>>> The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+>>
+>> I'm getting those on Monday - I will only bring them with me on
+>> Thursday, indeed.
+>
+> Ok, so we will have them for the harvester days (Friday/saturday) :)
+>
+>>>>>  - what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+>>>>
+>>>> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+>>>> a basic one with just the logo.
+>>>
+>>> Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+>>
+>> I think ennael is on this.
+>
+> She sent it over already and I will change the short text line to
+> german, so we can use it in Berlin. I will also put it on the server
+> for our German users.
+> I think Anne will use it at Solutions Linux as well.
+>
+>> Or too busy on other bits of the project or elsewhere. So that
+>> naturally leaves more room for discussions, indeed, instead of getting
+>> more things done and released.
+>>
+>> Maybe having a time plan layed out in a more practical way + assigned
+>> tasks (making it more visual/obvious to more people) could help a bit
+>> more.
+>
+> At mandrivauser.de we write such things down in the wiki, assign
+> people to it (all of this very early) and then those people have to
+> get their tasks done when the time comes. This way there will be
+> (almost) no "last minute tasks".
+>
+> I see the whole matter from both sides as well. The problem is:
+> Discussions about strategies and plans and elsewhere are essential, no
+> doubt. But it is also possible to prolongue such discussions past a
+> first deadline if needed. The simple practical and visible things can
+> not be postponed because they are bound to fixed schedules (such as
+> events and release dates).
+>
+> --
+
+I can try to propose a screen presentation. It will need to be translated then
+
+-- 
+Anne
+http://www.mageia.org
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Fri May 6 14:31:40 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/6 Anne nicolas <ennael at mageia.org>:
+> 2011/5/6 Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com>:
+>> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+>>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:45, Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com> wrote:
+>>>> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+>>>>>>  - what about stickers?
+>>>>>
+>>>>> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+>>>>
+>>>> The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+>>>
+>>> I'm getting those on Monday - I will only bring them with me on
+>>> Thursday, indeed.
+>>
+>> Ok, so we will have them for the harvester days (Friday/saturday) :)
+>>
+>>>>>>  - what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+>>>>>
+>>>>> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+>>>>> a basic one with just the logo.
+>>>>
+>>>> Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+>>>
+>>> I think ennael is on this.
+>>
+>> She sent it over already and I will change the short text line to
+>> german, so we can use it in Berlin. I will also put it on the server
+>> for our German users.
+>> I think Anne will use it at Solutions Linux as well.
+>>
+>>> Or too busy on other bits of the project or elsewhere. So that
+>>> naturally leaves more room for discussions, indeed, instead of getting
+>>> more things done and released.
+>>>
+>>> Maybe having a time plan layed out in a more practical way + assigned
+>>> tasks (making it more visual/obvious to more people) could help a bit
+>>> more.
+>>
+>> At mandrivauser.de we write such things down in the wiki, assign
+>> people to it (all of this very early) and then those people have to
+>> get their tasks done when the time comes. This way there will be
+>> (almost) no "last minute tasks".
+>>
+>> I see the whole matter from both sides as well. The problem is:
+>> Discussions about strategies and plans and elsewhere are essential, no
+>> doubt. But it is also possible to prolongue such discussions past a
+>> first deadline if needed. The simple practical and visible things can
+>> not be postponed because they are bound to fixed schedules (such as
+>> events and release dates).
+>>
+>> --
+>
+> I can try to propose a screen presentation. It will need to be translated then
+
+I
+> --
+> Anne
+> http://www.mageia.org
+> _______________________________________________
+> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+> Mageia-marketing at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing
+>
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Fri May 6 14:40:22 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/6 Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com>:
+> 2011/5/6 Anne nicolas <ennael at mageia.org>:
+>> 2011/5/6 Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com>:
+>>> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+>>>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:45, Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com> wrote:
+>>>>> 2011/5/6 Romain d'Alverny <rda at mageia.org>:
+>>>>>>>  - what about stickers?
+>>>>>>
+>>>>>> I'll get some from Damien next week (same FOSDEM series so far).
+>>>>>
+>>>>> The events are next week, so this is too late (for Berlin). :(
+>>>>
+>>>> I'm getting those on Monday - I will only bring them with me on
+>>>> Thursday, indeed.
+>>>
+>>> Ok, so we will have them for the harvester days (Friday/saturday) :)
+>>>
+>>>>>>>  - what about a CD label to offer along with CDs burned on location?
+>>>>>>
+>>>>>> Needs a design - are there templates for that? we could at least make
+>>>>>> a basic one with just the logo.
+>>>>>
+>>>>> Can we have that for next Wednesday?
+>>>>
+>>>> I think ennael is on this.
+>>>
+>>> She sent it over already and I will change the short text line to
+>>> german, so we can use it in Berlin. I will also put it on the server
+>>> for our German users.
+>>> I think Anne will use it at Solutions Linux as well.
+>>>
+>>>> Or too busy on other bits of the project or elsewhere. So that
+>>>> naturally leaves more room for discussions, indeed, instead of getting
+>>>> more things done and released.
+>>>>
+>>>> Maybe having a time plan layed out in a more practical way + assigned
+>>>> tasks (making it more visual/obvious to more people) could help a bit
+>>>> more.
+>>>
+>>> At mandrivauser.de we write such things down in the wiki, assign
+>>> people to it (all of this very early) and then those people have to
+>>> get their tasks done when the time comes. This way there will be
+>>> (almost) no "last minute tasks".
+>>>
+>>> I see the whole matter from both sides as well. The problem is:
+>>> Discussions about strategies and plans and elsewhere are essential, no
+>>> doubt. But it is also possible to prolongue such discussions past a
+>>> first deadline if needed. The simple practical and visible things can
+>>> not be postponed because they are bound to fixed schedules (such as
+>>> events and release dates).
+>>>
+>>> --
+>>
+>> I can try to propose a screen presentation. It will need to be translated then
+>
+> I
+Oops! Sorry
+
+If you want to do that until Sunday night, would be nice, then I can
+translate Monday (Tuesday morning I will be on the train to Berlin).
+If not possible I will do one for this German event, to be replaced
+with a real one, using final release images.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + +
+

+ +
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[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia

+ Juergen Harms + Juergen.Harms at unige.ch +
+ Fri May 6 17:47:54 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Evidently, I had thought about some items to go into such a list: there 
+is a short list at the end of this message - far from exhaustive and a 
+very personal view, seen from the kind of user I represent.
+
+My items do not cover the ground, but the list should be kept short: 
+there is need to consider arguments to attract canditate users coming 
+from windows, maybe also the "hugging" aspect proposed by Romain, but I 
+do not feel competetent in that domain. Arguments should fit into some 
+kind of a "template".
+
+I like the examples of graphical competence that pop up everywhere in 
+Mageia: if such a list is really implemented and is short, how about 
+adding a kind of line-drawing sketch to the presentation of each 
+argument (style: the bug that appears/appeared during the install 
+sequence) - that might help to take away the taste of "oh, 
+self-promotion" and make people laugh.
+
+Apropos hugging aspect: I do not think that such a list should primarily 
+address emotional aspects, it should address the potential user who - 
+and that is at the intellectual level - realizes that there are 
+alternatives, and starts scratching his head.
+
+--------------
+
+Quality:
+Mageia is promising to be as solid and perfect as Mandriva at the best
+of its times (Mandriva heritage)
+
+Language support:
+Mageia wants to provide a box that perfectly "speaks" many languages -
+its structure and its anchor in the user community have already now
+produced excellent results (Mandriva heritage + enhancement)
+
+Multi-profile support:
+Mageia offers and maintains application that address the needs of a 
+large variety of user communities - with applications ranging from 
+game-playing and music-listening to scientific and engineering 
+applications (Mandriva heritage)
+
+Leading-edge / stability equilibrium:
+<text needed to go in here - delicate, it touches the rolling release 
+discussion>
+
+User <-> maintainer interaction:
+<text needed to go in here> (Mageia community concept)
+
+Friendly human side: (quoting Romain)
+<text needed to go in here>
+
+Sorry to be so late with my reply - I had not created a filter for 
+mageia-marketing and thunderbird had put away all your messages as junk (-
+
+ + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] 2011/week 17 review

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Mon May 9 13:22:47 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/6 Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com>:
+>> 2011/5/6 Anne nicolas <ennael at mageia.org>:
+>>>
+>>> I can try to propose a screen presentation. It will need to be translated then
+>
+> If you want to do that until Sunday night, would be nice, then I can
+> translate Monday (Tuesday morning I will be on the train to Berlin).
+> If not possible I will do one for this German event, to be replaced
+> with a real one, using final release images.
+
+Did you find the time for that? Pls send it over ASAP, even if it is
+only a draft.
+I need to get this done until tonight (tomorrow is occupied by
+travelling and setting up the stand).
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 4; CD design of Mageia CD

+ suikerstroop + suikerstroop at gmail.com +
+ Tue May 10 20:35:27 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
> [...]
+
+> I think ennael is on this.
+
+> It's not so much about "short on material", there's a lot which could
+> have been done (like nice CD/DVD labels, a nice screen presentation,
+> graphical flyer layout with a general text to be translated and used
+> in different countries, etc.
+>[...]
+> Romain
+
+
+I agree to this. But it should be easier to upload your stuff and to get in
+touch
+of other people while designing the CDEEs.
+As a shop worker in seconded handed CDROms for computer software, I figure
+out
+the design of the CD wallet is very important. It should be designed in a
+fashion people know where Mageia is al about. I think a pictorial way of
+portraying Mageia is the best solution. I think Ubuntu CD wallets are great
+in their choice of color, but not attractive in the sense people see
+pictogrammes, pictures or diagrammes. I believe a nice graphical design
+would be a great. I have made up some lettres. Perhaps I can get into touch
+with some who can help us spread Mageia.
+
+I like to help translate Mageia.
+
+What are the core keypoints or strongholds of the Mageia distribution. I
+figure out
+during the social media session here in Uden (Netherlands). Social media is
+very important, especially Linkedin, Twitter, etcetera. There was a guy, he
+talked about TweetDeck. Perhaps such an application should be integrated in
+the Mageia distro.
+I think Mageia should promote itself by social networks.
+
+
+Yours faithfully,
+
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[Mageia-marketing] mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Mon May 16 22:24:36 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Just a headsup:
+
+rda, tv and I will be working together on putting together a tutorial
+to explain mgaonline to mdv users changing over, so a basic
+user-centric not-too-technical explanation of the upgrade process.
+
+Help welcome - I'll be hanging around on #marcomm Wednesday
+and Thursday while I look at this, anyone else interested, come by
+and brainstorm, check out what's been written and do a crit, make
+screenshots we can add...
+
+Cheers!
+
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[Mageia-marketing] Heads-up - release stuff needs to be ready in 2 weeks

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Mon May 16 22:27:20 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi all,
+
+It's time to put everything together the marcomm team is supposed to
+put into the final release. I'll be putting together a list, and
+posting it here tomorrow night. If you have any free time at all, to
+write, read, proofread, test and critique the stuff we put together,
+this is when we really need you!
+
+Cheers, 
+
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[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks

+ Romain d'Alverny + rdalverny at gmail.com +
+ Mon May 16 22:30:43 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi there,
+
+during the LinuxTag exhibition in Berlin, Oliver (obgr) and me took
+the time to briefly discuss what should be done for the RC and final
+release.
+
+For RC, no big change on the Web site: we only remove the red warnings
+and replace those with a RC-focused message. I leave it to anyone here
+to write this message and submit it for inclusion.
+
+For finale release... We have 15 days left and of course, this is very
+short a frame for that. But we can do it focusing on the right thing.
+
+ * NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the
+product - this section does not exist already, although you will find
+equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver
+and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:
+  - presentation home, main message being, "this is a Linux system for people"
+  - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,
+what benefits)
+  - focus page for developers (same)
+  - focus page for contributors (same)
+  - focus page for businesses (same)
+  - focus page on technical specs, requirements
+
+ * NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will
+refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,
+as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.
+
+ * NEED: redesign slightly the home page for the release day and the
+following days. What will happen anyway on the home page:
+   - project announcement content will be moved to a distinct page,
+under the /about section
+   - on release day, about only a page-wide home screen picture,
+linking to the presentation page will be there + news references
+   - on following days, usual news section + contacts will be re-added
+
+ * NEED: message to spread (blog, forum, news sites, etc.) according to audience
+
+ * NICE TO HAVE: a thank you page, for all contributors to this very release
+   - needed: someone to mail all project list and collect name of
+people that accept to be listed there
+   - needed: someone (design) to propose a design to use these names
+(default solution will be to have a special page listing everyone)
+
+ * NICE TO HAVE: updated global navigation (top nav bar on www, that
+should be spread later to other parts of the website). I know I posted
+something about it months ago, but did not finish my mockups about it.
+This is of course still open.
+
+ * NICE TO HAVE: redesigned contribution how to page - from
+http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=contribute
+
+ * finally, for each of the above things, we need someone in charge;
+that means, someone that can take it, deliver a quick prototype,
+implement it and provide for inclusion and translation within the
+coming 15 days (and coordinate with who is needed for that). We might
+post a bug for each of these to assign it to the person in charge.
+
+As for the actual contents (precise info, screenshots), you (the one
+taking this bit in charge) have to get in touch with packagers and
+collaborate with them.
+
+Additions, comments, advice, takers?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist

+ Romain d'Alverny + rdalverny at gmail.com +
+ Mon May 16 22:33:55 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi,
+
+On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 22:24, Patricia Fraser <trish at thefrasers.org> wrote:
+> rda, tv and I will be working together on putting together a tutorial
+> to explain mgaonline to mdv users changing over, so a basic
+> user-centric not-too-technical explanation of the upgrade process.
+
+I won't be online before Thursday afternoon about this.
+
+First thing is that anyone willing to help gets ones hands unto the
+mgaonline notifier and see how it behaves from a 2010.1, 2010.2
+Mandriva release (do this in a VM or on a machine with a backup, at
+this point).
+
+Second thing is to design a 1/2/3/4 story to guide a user into this
+process (from downloading/installing this new mgaonline package, down
+to actually upgrading the system).
+
+If you need help about setting this up, please ask on -dev
+mailing-list or channel.
+
+Romain
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Mon May 16 23:39:30 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi Romain,
+
+Excuse fast top-post please! I'll check through this list along with
+other stuff we've talked about, and get started on it all tomorrow
+night.
+
+See you Thursday on irc.
+
+Cheers,
+
+> Hi there,
+> 
+> during the LinuxTag exhibition in Berlin, Oliver (obgr) and me took
+> the time to briefly discuss what should be done for the RC and final
+> release.
+> 
+> For RC, no big change on the Web site: we only remove the red
+> warnings and replace those with a RC-focused message. I leave it to
+> anyone here to write this message and submit it for inclusion.
+> 
+> For finale release... We have 15 days left and of course, this is
+> very short a frame for that. But we can do it focusing on the right
+> thing.
+> 
+>  * NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the
+> product - this section does not exist already, although you will
+> find equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product
+> page. Oliver and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5
+> pages:
+>   - presentation home, main message being, "this is a Linux system
+> for people"
+>   - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,
+> what benefits)
+>   - focus page for developers (same)
+>   - focus page for contributors (same)
+>   - focus page for businesses (same)
+>   - focus page on technical specs, requirements
+> 
+>  * NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will
+> refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be
+> provided, as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.
+> 
+>  * NEED: redesign slightly the home page for the release day and the
+> following days. What will happen anyway on the home page:
+>    - project announcement content will be moved to a distinct page,
+> under the /about section
+>    - on release day, about only a page-wide home screen picture,
+> linking to the presentation page will be there + news references
+>    - on following days, usual news section + contacts will be
+> re-added
+> 
+>  * NEED: message to spread (blog, forum, news sites, etc.)
+> according to audience
+> 
+>  * NICE TO HAVE: a thank you page, for all contributors to this
+> very release
+>    - needed: someone to mail all project list and collect name of
+> people that accept to be listed there
+>    - needed: someone (design) to propose a design to use these names
+> (default solution will be to have a special page listing everyone)
+> 
+>  * NICE TO HAVE: updated global navigation (top nav bar on www, that
+> should be spread later to other parts of the website). I know I
+> posted something about it months ago, but did not finish my mockups
+> about it. This is of course still open.
+> 
+>  * NICE TO HAVE: redesigned contribution how to page - from
+> http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=contribute
+> 
+>  * finally, for each of the above things, we need someone in charge;
+> that means, someone that can take it, deliver a quick prototype,
+> implement it and provide for inclusion and translation within the
+> coming 15 days (and coordinate with who is needed for that). We
+> might post a bug for each of these to assign it to the person in
+> charge.
+> 
+> As for the actual contents (precise info, screenshots), you (the one
+> taking this bit in charge) have to get in touch with packagers and
+> collaborate with them.
+> 
+> Additions, comments, advice, takers?
+> 
+> Cheers,
+> 
+> Romain
+> _______________________________________________
+> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+> Mageia-marketing at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing
+
+
+
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+52.4161N,16.9303E
+ma mei 16 23:38:39 CEST 2011
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[Mageia-marketing] Tasks for Mageia 1 release, marketing/artwork

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Tue May 17 20:42:41 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi all,
+
+Here's the promised update to the task list. This list is also going
+up on the wiki here:
+
+http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#what_s_hot_current_work
+
+Please check it, and let us know what you can take on. I've put my
+name against some of the things, but since we only have about 2 weeks
+to complete this stuff, the more people pitch in, the better.
+
+Numero Uno, absolutely must be done:
+
+ - Build a visual brand for Mageia
+
+This means: nail down a colour palette (even if it's an interim one)
+and bring the artwork/design of the install and the distro (all the
+mageia-specific parts), the website and any posters/kakemoni/whatever
+into line with each other as far as possible. We can certainly
+achieve this in 2 weeks if we jump all over it.
+
+The artwork team is on board with a fair bit of this - what we need
+now is more eyes, to look at the suggestions and weigh in with
+*constructive* criticism - "I don't like it" isn't helpful, any more
+than "It doesn't work"; we need to know what to do about it. Is it
+the balance of the design that needs changing? To what? Is it the
+colours that aren't appealing? What would look better? What does
+work? Why?
+
+Remember: we need to be *visible*, we need to be *identifiable* in
+the great distro maelstrom, and we need to express who we are as well
+as possible. Are we edgy? Comfortable? Out there? welcoming? chintzy?
+the community decides, and that's you, so speak up.
+
+Who: I'm running with this one for the present, but please take a look
+as we progress.
+
+Next, absolutely must be done, from Romain's list: 
+
+1:  A presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the product.
+
+The suggestion at present is that we have a minimalist, focused
+layout with around 5 sub-pages linked from the presentation page:
+  - presentation home, main message being, "this is a Linux system
+   for people"
+  - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,
+what benefits)
+  - focus page for developers (same)
+  - focus page for contributors (same)
+  - focus page for businesses (same)
+  - focus page on technical specs, requirements
+
+We need to get input from the devs and other contributors on what the
+benefits are for them; and we need to get hold of the specs and
+requirements for that page.
+
+Who: not assigned yet.
+
+Who: unassigned at the moment. Anyone up to help with this?
+
+2: Redesign the download section (to which the section above will
+refer). 
+
+For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided, as
+these influence quite a lot how we will present things. However, we
+can do quite a lot of design with placeholders, so that isn't a
+requirement to get started.
+
+We need this to be ready early so the i18n teams can do their thing.
+Ideally we want the EN text finalised by 25-05-11 - that's 8 days
+away.
+
+Who: not assigned yet.
+
+3: Redesign the home page of mageia.org - special look for release
+day and a few days afterwards. 
+
+What will happen anyway on the home page:
+   - project announcement content will be moved to a distinct page,
+under the /about section
+   - on release day, about only a page-wide home screen picture,
+linking to the presentation page will be there + news references
+   - on following days, usual news section + contacts will be re-added
+
+This will be mostly artwork/design, with not a whole lot of text, so
+the marcomm part should be quick. Hopefully we'll have something by
+way of a design coming out of Task Numero Uno (visual brand - I know
+it's a ways up 8-)), in plenty of time for the text to be added.
+
+We need this to be ready early so the i18n teams can do their thing.
+Ideally we want the EN text finalised by 26-05-11 - that's 9 days
+away.
+
+Who: not assigned yet.
+
+4: The message to spread (blog, forum, news sites, etc.) -
+varieties according to audience.
+
+Again we need to have this ready early so the i18n teams can do their
+thing. This needs to be ready earlier than any other text, and it's
+the most writing; if we could please all jump on this and have
+something ready by 23-05, that would be great.
+
+Who: not assigned yet.
+
+5. A thank you page, for all contributors to this very release
+
+(This is very important - our community works hard and makes good
+stuff, and by damn a pat on the back is deserved!)
+ 
+   - needed: someone to mail all project list and collect name of
+people that accept to be listed there
+   - needed: someone (design) to propose a design to use these names
+(default solution will be to have a special page listing everyone)
+
+A Thanks page linked from the presentation page in #1 and from the
+Release Day front page will work fine, if we get the design right.
+
+Who: not assigned yet.
+
+ * NICE TO HAVE: updated global navigation (top nav bar on www, that
+should be spread later to other parts of the website). I know I posted
+something about it months ago, but did not finish my mockups about it.
+This is of course still open.
+
+If we have time  - let's take a look at this.
+
+ * NICE TO HAVE: redesigned contribution how to page - from
+http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=contribute
+
+Again - if we have time.
+
+Any unassigned tasks, I'll work on as they come up, but we need
+contributors - now's your chance to have your words and ideas
+immortalised!
+
+Cheers,
+
+
+-- 
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+di mei 17 20:00:39 CEST 2011
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[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7; website - The average Mageia User

+ suikerstroop + suikerstroop at gmail.com +
+ Tue May 17 21:59:22 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/17 <mageia-marketing-request at mageia.org>
+
+> [...]
+> Today's Topics:
+>
+>   1. mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist
+>      (Patricia Fraser)
+>   2. Heads-up - release stuff needs to be ready in 2   weeks
+>      (Patricia Fraser)
+>   3. Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Romain d'Alverny)
+>   4. Re: mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for    assist
+>      (Romain d'Alverny)
+>   5. Re: Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Patricia Fraser)
+>
+>
+> Message: 3
+> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 22:30:43 +0200
+> From: "Romain d'Alverny" <rdalverny at gmail.com>
+> To: Mageia marketing team discussion list
+>        <mageia-marketing at mageia.org>,  Mageia Web team discussion list
+>        <mageia-webteam at mageia.org>
+> Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks
+> Message-ID: <BANLkTin7KCL9iMmW+xkFioWqQa6q4Nm7Lw at mail.gmail.com>
+> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+>
+> Hi there,
+>
+> [...].
+>
+
+
+> For finale release... We have 15 days left and of course, this is very
+> short a frame for that. But we can do it focusing on the right thing.
+>
+>  * NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the
+> product - this section does not exist already, although you will find
+> equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver
+> and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:
+>  - presentation home, main message being, "this is a Linux system for
+> people"
+>
+
+Please I would like to see it changed into "It's all about the free to
+connect." Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as
+something for computer nerds.
+
+>  - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,
+> what benefits)
+>  - focus page for developers (same)
+>
+Here you can tell it is a linux distribution
+
+>  - focus page for contributors (same)
+>
+ >>> ...no comment at this moment
+
+>  - focus page for businesses (same)
+>
+Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the
+aspect
+of intelllectual property rights.
+
+>  - focus page on technical specs, requirements
+>
+> no comment at this moment
+
+>  * NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will
+> refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,
+> as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.
+>
+>
+we need to show which package are in the default section [especially the
+[patentented] multimedia codecs], which is the user-functionality for a
+certain package. LibreOffice is for writing, presentations and making tables
+for presenting useful business data. We also need to have meta-packages.
+especialy the following fields need our attention:
+- multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record
+videostreams <streamripper>
+- social media <TweetDesk>
+- security <privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising>
+We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a
+full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.
+[...]
+
+>
+> Cheers,
+>
+> Romain
+>
+>
+>
+> --
+>
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[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7; website - The average Mageia User

+ Romain d'Alverny + rda at mageia.org +
+ Tue May 17 23:56:53 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 21:59, suikerstroop <suikerstroop at gmail.com> wrote:
+>>  * NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the
+>> product - this section does not exist already, although you will find
+>> equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver
+>> and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:
+>>  - presentation home, main message being, "this is a Linux system for
+>> people"
+>
+> Please I would like to see it changed into "It's all about the free to
+> connect." Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as
+> something for computer nerds.
+
+That may not be necessarily the goal of Mageia 1 to change that
+though. We're 2 weeks into the final release, building up from scratch
+a release message
+
+Anyway, could you elaborate on the "it's all about the free to
+connect" thing? I don't get the idea/meaning.
+
+>>  - focus page for businesses (same)
+>
+> Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the
+> aspect of intelllectual property rights.
+
+That's more for contributors than businesses.
+
+>>  * NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will
+>> refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,
+>> as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.
+>
+> We also need to have meta-packages.
+> especialy the following fields need our attention:
+> - multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record
+> videostreams <streamripper>
+> - social media <TweetDesk>
+> - security <privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising>
+>
+> We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a
+> full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.
+
+Although that's interesting, this is not the kind of need you assess
+13 days before the final release. File bugs for Mageia 2 if you like,
+but here it's not on the list for Mageia 1.
+
+Romain
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 8; The new Mageia user - my comments explained

+ suikerstroop + suikerstroop at gmail.com +
+ Wed May 18 21:01:12 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Message: 3
+
+> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 23:56:53 +0200
+> From: "Romain d'Alverny" <rda at mageia.org>
+> To: Mageia marketing team discussion list
+>        <mageia-marketing at mageia.org>
+> Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue
+>        7; website - The average Mageia User
+> Message-ID: <BANLkTimHO8YcYqxRM35NtEHtD17f0Qz5Gg at mail.gmail.com>
+> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+>
+> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 21:59, suikerstroop <suikerstroop at gmail.com>
+> wrote:
+> >> ?* NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the
+> >> product - this section does not exist already, although you will find
+> >> equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver
+> >> and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:
+> >> ?- presentation home, main message being, "this is a Linux system for
+> >> people"
+> >
+> > Please I would like to see it changed into "It's all about the free to
+> > connect." Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as
+> > something for computer nerds.
+>
+> That may not be necessarily the goal of Mageia 1 to change that
+> though. We're 2 weeks into the final release, building up from scratch
+> a release message
+>
+
+
+
+>
+> Anyway, could you elaborate on the "it's all about the free to
+> connect" thing? I don't get the idea/meaning.
+>
+> I made a mistype, I do mean "it's all about the freedom to connect." I
+think Mageia should be about:
+- connecting >>> social media
+- freedom >> co-creating
+- entertainment
+- usability
+- the (user) experience
+We have to broaden our user base. We
+
+> >> ?- focus page for businesses (same)
+> >
+> > Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and
+> the
+> > aspect of intelllectual property rights.
+>
+> That's more for contributors than businesses.
+>
+> >> ?* NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will
+> >> refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,
+> >> as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.
+> >
+> > We also need to have meta-packages.
+> > especialy the following fields need our attention:
+> > - multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record
+> > videostreams <streamripper>
+> > - social media <TweetDesk>
+> > - security <privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising>
+> >
+> > We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a
+> > full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.
+>
+> Although that's interesting, this is not the kind of need you assess
+> 13 days before the final release. File bugs for Mageia 2 if you like,
+> but here it's not on the list for Mageia 1.
+>
+> Romain
+>
+> I'm not a bug tester, programmer or professional software tester. But I
+have tried many linux distributions. I was a great fan of Linux Mandrake, I
+like YAST in the old SUSE. My biggest complaint about all these
+distributions:
+- virtual desktops are great
+- slow loading of the desktop
+- bad support of patented multimedia codecs
+
+I thought and am thing now, Linux should be very quick operating system, low
+hardware requirements. Linux should be fun to use. Get things done easily,
+not difficult and frustating to use.
+
+
+Greetz,
+
+Zwikkle
+
+>
+> ------------------------------
+>
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[Mageia-marketing] Slides of Mageia conference at Linuxtag Berlin

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Thu May 19 23:41:38 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
I sent this to the list with the impress file attached but the list
+did not accept it (file too large).
+You can look at the PDF I put online:
+ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/magazin/Mageia_at_LinuxTag.pdf
+If you want the original slides (the LO Impress file) I can mail it to
+somebody directly.
+
+wobo
+
+---------- Forwarded message ----------
+From: Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com>
+Date: 2011/5/19
+Subject: Mageia conference slides of Linuxtag
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list <mageia-marketing at mageia.org>
+
+
+Hi,
+
+don't know if Anne sent them to you or if you could use them in any
+way. Here are the slides which were used for the conference Anne held
+at Linuxtag in Berlin.
+
+--
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+
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[Mageia-marketing] Slides of Mageia conference at Linuxtag Berlin

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Fri May 20 08:14:55 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi wobo,
+
+> I sent this to the list with the impress file attached but the list
+> did not accept it (file too large).
+> You can look at the PDF I put online:
+> ftp://ftp.mandrivauser.de/magazin/Mageia_at_LinuxTag.pdf
+> If you want the original slides (the LO Impress file) I can mail it
+> to somebody directly.
+
+Thanks for these!
+
+TeaAge has sent me the screenshots as they are now, so I'll be
+looking at the current colour scheme across the weekend - there'll be
+some colour mockups for people to look at by Sunday, so hopefully we
+can work out a way to get it all to hang together for the visual
+branding for the release.
+
+We can do more for Mageia 2 - this is just a start.
+
+Cheers,
+
+-- 
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+vr mei 20 08:12:47 CEST 2011
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[Mageia-marketing] Mageia poster for events

+ José Alberto Valle Cid + j.alberto.vc at gmail.com +
+ Fri May 13 03:13:05 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Fixed contact mail in spanish versións.
+
+See you later :)
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] Release day texts - please check

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Sun May 22 20:32:39 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi all,
+
+I've put up some texts on the Sandbox here:
+
+http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#sandbox_topics
+
+These have to be finalised ASAP so they can go to i18n. Please read,
+proofread, comment!
+
+Cheers,
+
+-- 
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[Mageia-marketing] proposal for installer screens

+ Marcello Anni + marcello.anni at alice.it +
+ Tue May 24 17:52:02 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
hi,
+
+i've created a proposal for installer screens, what do you think about them?
+
+
+http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#scenario_2_marcello_s_proposal
+
+
+i would use the keywords also in the launching and promoting phase, if some 
+could create also some desktop backgrounds with them it will be great. Let me 
+know
+
+
+Cheers,
+Marcello
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] Is it possible to fix before release the bug 920?

+ Marcello Anni + marcello.anni at alice.it +
+ Tue May 24 18:42:29 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
hi all,
+
+is it possible to fix this bug before release?
+
+
+ 'urpme --auto-orphans' message shouldn't be shown when using rpmdrake
+
+https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920
+
+
+thank you
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
+
+PS= i'm adding also marketing team because it's related to a feature very 
+important for the product quality
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] Is it possible to fix before release the bug 920?

+ Anne nicolas + ennael at mageia.org +
+ Tue May 24 18:49:58 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/24 Marcello Anni <marcello.anni at alice.it>:
+> hi all,
+>
+> is it possible to fix this bug before release?
+>
+>
+>  'urpme --auto-orphans' message shouldn't be shown when using rpmdrake
+>
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920
+
+
+no it will not. Todo list is already big enough
+>
+>
+> thank you
+>
+>
+> cheers,
+> Marcello
+>
+>
+> PS= i'm adding also marketing team because it's related to a feature very
+> important for the product quality
+> _______________________________________________
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+>
+
+
+
+-- 
+Anne
+http://www.mageia.org
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens

+ Romain d'Alverny + rdalverny at gmail.com +
+ Tue May 24 19:00:40 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
(sorry, didn't reply to both lists)
+
+Hi there,
+
+thanks Marcello - and Patricia, for your proposals.
+
+I'm going to comment both and add three things that would need to be
+in these info screens (to add); then, both proposals could be merged,
+somehow. Articulation of types of people with the platform benefits:
+ * (addition) screen: a "before we start, thank you for
+installing/using Mageia" screen toward the user
+ * (add.) screen: a "this is the result of people work, time and
+donations" type-of screen - we won't have the "thank you" page
+directed to contributors (at least, not in the way we expected at
+first) but we need some kind of dedicated mention there (who did this
+and how)
+ * Mageia is a system for people, who stay in control (nothing hidden,
+privacy concerns, free software, huge library of software)
+ * for businesses: servers, desktops, appliances; secure, stable,
+large community support;
+ * for developers: full of technologies and tools to build desktop,
+server and Web applications;
+ * for contributors: it's a community-driven, Open Source project
+involved many different disciplines!
+ * for you: you tell us what you make with this and how we can make it
+better suit you
+ * (last screen, add.) a "we hope Mageia will help you to put some
+magic in your life" or something along this line that "turns the
+table" to the person in front of her device.
+
+I wouldn't focus on the "no price" bit as it leads to the "no value"
+one too easily (furthermore, there _is_ a price to pay, if only in
+attention/focus on "what is an operating system" and how to install
+it). Ah. And we have no "brainstorming" place yet - so better not
+mention it.
+
+A last remark, regarding your proposal Marcello, where you use Mageia
+as an adjective. As a name/brand, Mageia (and Linux too, btw) is
+"something", a name, not a verb/action, neither an adjective - and
+should thus not be used like this (and not encouraged to be used as
+such).
+
+Why? Not necessarily because that's bad (some people tend to think
+this, although that's as well a sign of recognition), but because
+being an adjective or a verb, it makes it something describing
+something specific (a status or an action).
+
+Mageia is project and a versatile product and a community - that's
+already too much for a single name (and we will have time to fix that
+later) - but that's precisely something too big (and too young) to
+push it toward a status or an action. So, no "Be Mageia" please. :-)
+
+
+But again, I am afraid we may be quite late here in that I'm not sure
+if we will find time to artwork to produce something there before the
+end of this week. Nonetheless, this work will still be valid for
+further releases :-p
+
+Who takes it further?
+
+Romain
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] proposal for installer screens

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Tue May 24 20:18:13 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi Marcello,
+
+> http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#scenario_2_marcello_s_proposal
+
+What about now we try to achieve something that's halfway between
+yours and mine? You go first!
+
+Cheers,
+-- 
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
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[Mageia-marketing] Updates to focus pages

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Tue May 24 20:21:17 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
- up here:
+
+http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#web_pages_for_release_day
+
+Now including the devs focus and specs info, thanks misc.
+
+Cheers,
+
+-- 
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[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Tue May 24 20:41:00 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi,
+
+I'll take a look at making additions/updates/merges in around half an
+hour - Marcello, maybe you could have a go first, if you have time!
+
+We can have something updated today, and if you're happy with it,
+hopefully it'll be ready for Artwork.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Patricia.
+
+-- 
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[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens

+ Marcello Anni + marcello.anni at alice.it +
+ Tue May 24 20:47:27 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
> Hi,
+
+hi patricia
+
+> 
+> I'll take a look at making additions/updates/merges in around half an
+> hour - Marcello, maybe you could have a go first, if you have time!
+
+i can't, i've not enough time... i'll let the work to you, guys (and girls), 
+i'm sure will end up with a great serie of installer screens  : ) 
+> 
+> We can have something updated today, and if you're happy with it,
+> hopefully it'll be ready for Artwork.
+> 
+> Cheers,
+> 
+> Patricia.
+> 
+
+hope so.
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens

+ Thorsten van Lil + tvl83 at gmx.de +
+ Tue May 24 21:27:33 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Am Dienstag 24 Mai 2011, 17:52:02 schrieb Marcello Anni:
+> hi,
+> 
+> i've created a proposal for installer screens, what do you think about
+> them?
+> 
+> 
+> http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#scenario_2_marcello_s
+> _proposal
+> 
+> 
+> i would use the keywords also in the launching and promoting phase, if some
+> could create also some desktop backgrounds with them it will be great. Let
+> me know
+> 
+
+I've tried to manipulate some existing images from AlexN and fill them with 
+text. I've tried to transfer the ideas of marketing team to match the layout 
+(a few items per page). The text is of course changable. So please, send your 
+ideas.
+
+https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/x6KbJvTcjuqYPSayr23uZ8WFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/mu-
+wTnVT61470ftQkywZ78WFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Tue May 24 21:53:13 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi Thorsten,
+
+> I've tried to manipulate some existing images from AlexN and fill
+> them with text. I've tried to transfer the ideas of marketing team
+> to match the layout (a few items per page). The text is of course
+> changable. So please, send your ideas.
+
+> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21XF10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+
+This one is the odd one out - it's all green!
+
+The other two are fine, and we'll have around 7 screens in the
+end - maybe you can alternate the two pictures?
+
+We'll have text ready for you later tonight.
+
+Cheers,	
+
+-- 
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[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens

+ Thorsten van Lil + tvl83 at gmx.de +
+ Tue May 24 22:39:13 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Am Dienstag 24 Mai 2011, 21:53:13 schrieb Patricia Fraser:
+> Hi Thorsten,
+> 
+> > I've tried to manipulate some existing images from AlexN and fill
+> > them with text. I've tried to transfer the ideas of marketing team
+> > to match the layout (a few items per page). The text is of course
+> > changable. So please, send your ideas.
+> > 
+> > https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21X
+> > F10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+> 
+> This one is the odd one out - it's all green!
+
+I can color the CD in a pastel blue, for example.
+
+> 
+> The other two are fine, and we'll have around 7 screens in the
+> end - maybe you can alternate the two pictures?
+> 
+> We'll have text ready for you later tonight.
+> 
+> Cheers,
+
+Just to let you know what is possible: I can only use these jpgs from his 
+flickr-profile, add some text, cut and copy things together.
+http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/
+
+Greetings
+
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] [Mageia-artwork] proposal for installer screens

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Wed May 25 00:07:28 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi Thorsten,
+
+> > > https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ADXkh9lnp1xRVH0H07aWccWFIzFZ2BaC21X
+> > > F10gWwzE?feat=directlink
+> > 
+> > This one is the odd one out - it's all green!
+> 
+> I can color the CD in a pastel blue, for example.
+
+That'd be fine - just so the colours sort of hang together with the
+overall scheme.
+
+> Just to let you know what is possible: I can only use these jpgs
+> from his flickr-profile, add some text, cut and copy things
+> together. http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/
+
+Yes - you're between a rock and a hard place, and I'm appreciating
+your work like crazy! Thanks so much for putting in all this effort -
+you artwork folks rock.
+
+The 8 screens-worth of text is up on the marketing sandbox - unless
+someone hates it, that's the text ready.
+
+If you *do* hate it, speak up now - it needs to go to the i18n people
+tomorrow.
+
+Cheers!
+
+-- 
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[Mageia-marketing] Installation poster

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Thu May 26 15:36:19 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
In case you missed it, macxi has done a very nice poster which shows
+the installation process in a simple graphic way.
+
+And the best of it all: he did all the text in inkscape, so with the
+svg file it is easy to translate (using the built-in xml-editor),
+maintain, make small changes, etc. Furthermore, exporting as EPS gives
+a scalable image to be printed in any size.
+I suggest to have all such things (posters, cd-labels, etc.) in this
+format for easy handling.
+
+Forum post (including the URL of the svg file):
+https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=303&p=2006#p2006
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
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[Mageia-marketing] Installation poster

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Thu May 26 16:30:34 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi wobo,
+
+> In case you missed it, macxi has done a very nice poster which shows
+> the installation process in a simple graphic way.
+>
+> And the best of it all: he did all the text in inkscape, so with the
+> svg file it is easy to translate (using the built-in xml-editor),
+> maintain, make small changes, etc. Furthermore, exporting as EPS gives
+> a scalable image to be printed in any size.
+> I suggest to have all such things (posters, cd-labels, etc.) in this
+> format for easy handling.
+
+This is brilliant, and I absolutely agree about Inkscape - it's a great
+thing, and keeps the images and text separate.
+
+Thanks for letting us know!
+
+-- 
+Patricia Fraser
+on the move
+trish at thefrasers.org
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1

+ Marianne Lombard + marianne at tuxette.fr +
+ Thu May 26 20:43:52 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi,
+
+The release approach and I think usefull to prepare the announcement who 
+will be made on our website and on others informations sites.
+
+I just begin the redaction of a news on the french site 
+http://linuxfr.org/ (not published yet) and I suppose others people will 
+do the same for slashdot or other geek-info-website in their language
+
+A good solution will be to join our effort and redact one version we can 
+adapt to our own context (being less or more technical, adding or not 
+screenshot, etc)
+
+My skills in redaction are basics so I will need the help of this  team 
+(I can manage french translations)
+
+
+Thanks by advance  for your help
+
+Marianne
+
+PS : please excuse my poor english
+
+-- 
+Marianne Lombard (Jehane)
+Mageia User - Mageia french translation team
+Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett
+
+
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[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Thu May 26 21:50:17 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi Marianne,
+
+> The release approach and I think usefull to prepare the
+> announcement who will be made on our website and on others
+> informations sites.
+
+Absolutely - it's next on my list too.
+ 
+> I just begin the redaction of a news on the french site 
+> http://linuxfr.org/ (not published yet) and I suppose others people
+> will do the same for slashdot or other geek-info-website in their
+> language
+
+We will be putting our work up on the marcomm sandbox on the wiki,
+here:
+
+http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox
+
+If you have a wiki login, maybe you could put your text up there, and
+we can work on a common text together? I'll work in English, but I'll
+understand your French okay.
+
+> My skills in redaction are basics so I will need the help of this
+> team (I can manage french translations)
+
+That's just fine - ideas are the important bit! Proofreading and
+editing, I can do.
+
+Cheers,
+
+
+-- 
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
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[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Fri May 27 21:04:57 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi,
+
+I'm messing about with this list of yours, Juergen, on the marcomm
+sandbox - getting something together for the announcement.
+
+Need help, folks - this is a situation where many eyes would be
+really handy!
+
+Cheers,
+
+> Evidently, I had thought about some items to go into such a list:
+> there is a short list at the end of this message - far from
+> exhaustive and a very personal view, seen from the kind of user I
+> represent.
+> 
+> My items do not cover the ground, but the list should be kept
+> short: there is need to consider arguments to attract canditate
+> users coming from windows, maybe also the "hugging" aspect proposed
+> by Romain, but I do not feel competetent in that domain. Arguments
+> should fit into some kind of a "template".
+> 
+> I like the examples of graphical competence that pop up everywhere
+> in Mageia: if such a list is really implemented and is short, how
+> about adding a kind of line-drawing sketch to the presentation of
+> each argument (style: the bug that appears/appeared during the
+> install sequence) - that might help to take away the taste of "oh, 
+> self-promotion" and make people laugh.
+> 
+> Apropos hugging aspect: I do not think that such a list should
+> primarily address emotional aspects, it should address the
+> potential user who - and that is at the intellectual level -
+> realizes that there are alternatives, and starts scratching his
+> head.
+> 
+> --------------
+> 
+> Quality:
+> Mageia is promising to be as solid and perfect as Mandriva at the
+> best of its times (Mandriva heritage)
+> 
+> Language support:
+> Mageia wants to provide a box that perfectly "speaks" many
+> languages - its structure and its anchor in the user community have
+> already now produced excellent results (Mandriva heritage +
+> enhancement)
+> 
+> Multi-profile support:
+> Mageia offers and maintains application that address the needs of a 
+> large variety of user communities - with applications ranging from 
+> game-playing and music-listening to scientific and engineering 
+> applications (Mandriva heritage)
+> 
+> Leading-edge / stability equilibrium:
+> <text needed to go in here - delicate, it touches the rolling
+> release 
+> discussion>
+> 
+> User <-> maintainer interaction:
+> <text needed to go in here> (Mageia community concept)
+> 
+> Friendly human side: (quoting Romain)
+> <text needed to go in here>
+> 
+> Sorry to be so late with my reply - I had not created a filter for 
+> mageia-marketing and thunderbird had put away all your messages as
+> junk (- _______________________________________________
+> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+> Mageia-marketing at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing
+
+
+
+-- 
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+vr mei 27 21:03:52 CEST 2011
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[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Fri May 27 21:24:19 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi Marianne,
+
+I'm ready for some help, if you've got some time!
+
+> The release approach and I think usefull to prepare the
+> announcement who will be made on our website and on others
+> informations sites.
+
+I have a beginning up here:
+
+http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#announcement
+
+If you could take a look, maybe log onto the wiki and add your ideas,
+we could put the draft announcement text together so the council can
+take a look at it tomorrow?
+
+Cheers,
+
+PS: Everyone's welcome to come help with this - it's all of us
+speaking, after all!
+
+-- 
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+vr mei 27 21:20:42 CEST 2011
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[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1

+ Marcello Anni + marcello.anni at alice.it +
+ Sat May 28 15:18:58 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
> Hi Marianne,
+> 
+> I'm ready for some help, if you've got some time!
+> 
+> > The release approach and I think usefull to prepare the
+> > announcement who will be made on our website and on others
+> > informations sites.
+> 
+> I have a beginning up here:
+> 
+> http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:sandbox#announcement
+> 
+> If you could take a look, maybe log onto the wiki and add your ideas,
+> we could put the draft announcement text together so the council can
+> take a look at it tomorrow?
+> 
+> Cheers,
+> 
+> PS: Everyone's welcome to come help with this - it's all of us
+> speaking, after all!
+
+
+i gave my proposals, i hope you will appreciate them. 
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
+
+PS= when the announcement will be published?
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] Redaction of announcements for the release of Mageia 1

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Sat May 28 16:53:58 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi Marcello,
+
+> i gave my proposals, i hope you will appreciate them. 
+
+Thanks! I think we should definitely include your Mageia is Open
+point, and I'll look at the others to see what we might merge.
+
+Anyone else got ideas for this?
+
+Cheers,
+
+
+-- 
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+za mei 28 16:52:58 CEST 2011
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[Mageia-marketing] Screenshots for the homepage at release time

+ Oliver Burger + oliver.bgr at googlemail.com +
+ Mon May 30 00:18:46 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi there!
+
+
+
+Webteam desperately needs some help from you!
+
+
+
+What we do need is some screenshots from Mageia, to be more exactly 
+here are the specifications:
+
+
+
+Format: png 4/3 and 16/9
+
+
+
+Screens are needed of:
+- boot screen
+- login screen
+- desktop (empty) for KDE, GNOME and
+- anything else you find interesting for future Mageia users.
+
+
+
+It would be great if you could put them online somewhere (picasa, 
+flickr,...) and send us the links to the mailing lists.
+
+
+
+Waiting for them desparately in the remaining days until release,
+
+
+
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[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia

+ Romain d'Alverny + rda at mageia.org +
+ Mon May 30 13:00:37 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi there,
+
+On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 21:04, Patricia Fraser <trish at thefrasers.org> wrote:
+> I'm messing about with this list of yours, Juergen, on the marcomm
+> sandbox - getting something together for the announcement.
+>
+> Need help, folks - this is a situation where many eyes would be
+> really handy!
+
+Checking it out and thinking about it while doing some Web stuff.
+
+This list is cool and can be put in the release pages but it does not
+exactly, precisely cover this question: what discrete stuff is
+different with this Mageia 1 distribution? (as in: what's in it that
+there's not in an other distribution?); technical/tool/experience.
+
+If the answer is: nothing, then, what is different with the project?
+Or still why chooose it? (that can be the Mageia promise, but that's
+more difficult to push). It's not to have only these exclusive bits
+showing up on the product page; but it's to have them nonetheless +
+all the rest.
+
+>> I like the examples of graphical competence that pop up everywhere
+>> in Mageia: if such a list is really implemented and is short, how
+>> about adding a kind of line-drawing sketch to the presentation of
+>> each argument (style: the bug that appears/appeared during the
+>> install sequence) - that might help to take away the taste of "oh,
+>> self-promotion" and make people laugh.
+
+Not sure I see/understand this. Have a sketch/example?
+
+>> Apropos hugging aspect: I do not think that such a list should
+>> primarily address emotional aspects, it should address the
+>> potential user who - and that is at the intellectual level -
+>> realizes that there are alternatives, and starts scratching his
+>> head.
+
+Yep, definitely. That's the: multiplicity/difference is good, because
+it encourages exploration and learning; so embrace it.
+
+>> Quality:
+>> Mageia is promising to be as solid and perfect as Mandriva at the
+>> best of its times (Mandriva heritage)
+>>
+>> Language support:
+>> Mageia wants to provide a box that perfectly "speaks" many
+>> languages - its structure and its anchor in the user community have
+>> already now produced excellent results (Mandriva heritage +
+>> enhancement)
+>>
+>> Multi-profile support:
+>> Mageia offers and maintains application that address the needs of a
+>> large variety of user communities - with applications ranging from
+>> game-playing and music-listening to scientific and engineering
+>> applications (Mandriva heritage)
+>>
+>> Leading-edge / stability equilibrium:
+>> <text needed to go in here - delicate, it touches the rolling
+>> release
+>> discussion>
+>>
+>> User <-> maintainer interaction:
+>> <text needed to go in here> (Mageia community concept)
+>>
+>> Friendly human side: (quoting Romain)
+>> <text needed to go in here>
+
+Romain
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Mon May 30 13:31:40 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Well, what does Mageia have what others do not have?
+
+1. Technically, nothing. We could just copy the Mandriva marketing
+phrases about excellent hardware recognition, ease of use, draktools,
+etc.
+
+2. Looks: well, pls artwork-team, don't take it personally, but the
+look is the very last item I would use to advertize the product. It is
+a technical product, which should be described by its technical
+features, not by its looks (everybody can make Ubuntu look like Mageia
+and vice versa). Back to #1.
+
+What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact that
+it is community based with all related implications. The organisation,
+the fact that no commercial management can dictate the way Mageia will
+take - the opportunity for the user to be more integrated in the
+future of this distribution than anywhere else.
+
+Of course this will only get the attention of people who care for
+these points. Others, like those who buy their car on the color of the
+carpeting, must be attracted by nice artwork. So, here we really have
+the difference between targets.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia

+ Anne nicolas + ennael at mageia.org +
+ Mon May 30 13:36:08 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/30 Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com>:
+> Well, what does Mageia have what others do not have?
+>
+> 1. Technically, nothing. We could just copy the Mandriva marketing
+> phrases about excellent hardware recognition, ease of use, draktools,
+> etc.
+>
+> 2. Looks: well, pls artwork-team, don't take it personally, but the
+> look is the very last item I would use to advertize the product. It is
+> a technical product, which should be described by its technical
+> features, not by its looks (everybody can make Ubuntu look like Mageia
+> and vice versa). Back to #1.
+
+I do not agree :) *you* do not think it's important but be carefull
+with generalization. Also it can be about theme and general
+integration. For example GTK apps under KDE and the contrary
+
+>
+> What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact that
+> it is community based with all related implications. The organisation,
+> the fact that no commercial management can dictate the way Mageia will
+> take - the opportunity for the user to be more integrated in the
+> future of this distribution than anywhere else.
+>
+> Of course this will only get the attention of people who care for
+> these points. Others, like those who buy their car on the color of the
+> carpeting, must be attracted by nice artwork. So, here we really have
+> the difference between targets.
+>
+> --
+> wobo
+> _______________________________________________
+> Mageia-marketing mailing list
+> Mageia-marketing at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing
+>
+
+
+
+-- 
+Anne
+http://www.mageia.org
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Mon May 30 13:45:43 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/5/30 Anne nicolas <ennael at mageia.org>:
+> 2011/5/30 Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com>:
+>> Well, what does Mageia have what others do not have?
+>>
+>> 1. Technically, nothing. We could just copy the Mandriva marketing
+>> phrases about excellent hardware recognition, ease of use, draktools,
+>> etc.
+>>
+>> 2. Looks: well, pls artwork-team, don't take it personally, but the
+>> look is the very last item I would use to advertize the product. It is
+>> a technical product, which should be described by its technical
+>> features, not by its looks (everybody can make Ubuntu look like Mageia
+>> and vice versa). Back to #1.
+>
+> I do not agree :) *you* do not think it's important but be carefull
+> with generalization.
+
+See the last paragraph of my mail - of course I am aware of different
+target groups :)
+
+>> What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact that
+>> it is community based with all related implications. The organisation,
+>> the fact that no commercial management can dictate the way Mageia will
+>> take - the opportunity for the user to be more integrated in the
+>> future of this distribution than anywhere else.
+>>
+>> Of course this will only get the attention of people who care for
+>> these points. Others, like those who buy their car on the color of the
+>> carpeting, must be attracted by nice artwork. So, here we really have
+>> the difference between targets.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Mon May 30 20:21:53 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
+> >> What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact
+> >> that it is community based with all related implications. The
+> >> organisation, the fact that no commercial management can dictate
+> >> the way Mageia will take - the opportunity for the user to be
+> >> more integrated in the future of this distribution than anywhere
+> >> else.
+
+I'm pinching this Wobo - thanks!
+
+
+
+-- 
+Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D
+52.4161N,16.9303E
+ma mei 30 20:21:32 CEST 2011
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[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia

+ Romain d'Alverny + rda at mageia.org +
+ Mon May 30 21:04:42 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 20:21, Patricia Fraser <trish at thefrasers.org> wrote:
+>> >> What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact
+>> >> that it is community based with all related implications. The
+>> >> organisation, the fact that no commercial management can dictate
+>> >> the way Mageia will take - the opportunity for the user to be
+>> >> more integrated in the future of this distribution than anywhere
+>> >> else.
+>
+> I'm pinching this Wobo - thanks!
+
+(I'm not playing the devil's advocate, just trying to push it further)
+
+a) How can we make this compare to:
+ - Debian
+ - FreeBSD
+
+(Fedora, Ubuntu are known to have a mixed community/corporate
+governance) The goal is not yet to know what is better, but to draw a
+map.
+
+b) How can we make this a clear benefit?
+
+c) And how can we make this an obvious benefit for:
+ - an existing Linux user;
+ - a non-Linux user?
+
+:-p
+
+Romain
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia

+ Patricia Fraser + trish at thefrasers.org +
+ Mon May 30 21:43:13 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi,
+
+> (I'm not playing the devil's advocate, just trying to push it
+> further)
+
+That's just what I need! a good solid shove on a Monday! 8-)
+ 
+> a) How can we make this compare to:
+>  - Debian
+>  - FreeBSD
+
+Balance? The personal is equally important with the technical?
+
+(Debian prides themselves on being merit-driven, but they manage to
+be very exclusive - otherwise why would there be a need for
+Debian-Women...)
+
+Openness to contribution (maybe not so much)?
+
+Responsibility? We're all responsible for making it good?
+ 
+> (Fedora, Ubuntu are known to have a mixed community/corporate
+> governance) The goal is not yet to know what is better, but to draw
+> a map.
+> 
+> b) How can we make this a clear benefit?
+
+I'd have a go if I understood better. What was the motivation of the
+Founders, aside from wriggling out from under corporate governance?
+What did they see in the future?
+ 
+> c) And how can we make this an obvious benefit for:
+>  - an existing Linux user;
+>  - a non-Linux user?
+
+For a non-Linux user, the welcome part will do it - just like it did
+for Ubuntu. "You're important to us". 
+
+8-) For an existing Linux user, it might be "You're important to us,
+so long as you're willing to unlearn some bad habits."
+
+Feedback/input needed!
+
+-- 
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[Mageia-marketing] List of arguments pro Mageia

+ Marcello Anni + marcello.anni at alice.it +
+ Tue May 31 15:13:00 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 20:21, Patricia Fraser <trish at thefrasers.org> wrote:
+> >> >> What we have other than most distributions in our area: the fact
+> >> >> that it is community based with all related implications. The
+> >> >> organisation, the fact that no commercial management can dictate
+> >> >> the way Mageia will take - the opportunity for the user to be
+> >> >> more integrated in the future of this distribution than anywhere
+> >> >> else.
+> >
+> > I'm pinching this Wobo - thanks!
+> 
+> (I'm not playing the devil's advocate, just trying to push it further)
+> 
+> a) How can we make this compare to:
+>  - Debian
+>  - FreeBSD
+> 
+
+they don't have the mageia control center : )
+
+> 
+> b) How can we make this a clear benefit?
+
+we can pute the focus on KDE and on our openess to the new technologies 
+
+> 
+> c) And how can we make this an obvious benefit for:
+>  - an existing Linux user;
+
+our attitidues are:
+
+- openess to new ideas
+- listen to the users
+- get the maximum from kde4. 
+
+all the distros do (in part) these tasks, but we have to communicate better 
+then them our strenghts
+
+>  - a non-Linux user?
+
+for a non-linux user we don't have to compare distros, we only have to show 
+our apps and tools... we must show amarok, k3b, dolphin, plasma, nepomuk and 
+so on... we must show them at the work, as non-linux users ignore completely 
+what apps do we use and how powerful are them
+> 
+> :-p
+> 
+> Romain
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
+ + +
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[Mageia-marketing] Screenshots for the homepage at release time

+ Oliver Burger + oliver.bgr at googlemail.com +
+ Mon May 30 00:11:17 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi there!
+
+Webteam desperately needs some help from you!
+
+What we do need is some screenshots from Mageia, to be more exactly 
+here are the specifications:
+
+Format: png 4/3 and 16/9
+
+Screens are needed of:
+- boot screen
+- login screen
+- desktop (empty) for KDE, GNOME and
+- anything else you find interesting for future Mageia users.
+
+It would be great if you could put them online somewhere (picasa, 
+flickr,...) and send us the links to the mailing lists.
+
+Waiting for them desparately in the remaining days until release,
+
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